blah234
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cam167
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Great vid blah, I like the way you explain things and use the dead time to explain different concepts as well, a couple of questions:
When you talk about the 4bet raise size being 2.5, do you think we should go bigger if we're 200bbs deep? if so how big?
And about only limping on the button, what do you think about limping/completing in the SB with low sc as 56s-67s and Axs,Kxs,Qxs the x being cards below 6 if the pot is multiway?
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blah234
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completing in the small blind is ok when the BB is not very aggro and only if someone else limp before you. If you complete the small blind it basically gives the BB green light to open about 25% of his hands at least. If you just complete and fold then you're donating money to him.
If the original limp is someone who plays fit or fold post flop or is really bad then I would still raise OOP with those hands to play a pot HU with the bad player.
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cam167
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Good point, I noticed that hero didn't adjusted his bet size according to his position, what are your thoughts on that, and what are your prefered sizes.
And one last thing, you say we should play tighter at the micros, coz of the rake, what do you think are the optimal stats?
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blah234
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I prefer to bet smaller when my range is weaker and adjust my betsize based on board texture when my range is stronger. There is no optimal stat since that depend on table conditions. For example, if you're at a table with 5 nits you should just raise ATC from steal position because they fold so much and your VPIP will be much higher.
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cam167
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oh i'm sorry, I formulated the question wrong.
What I ment was, that hero didn't adjust his preflop raise according to his position, what are your thoughts on that and wich sizes do you make from the different positions
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blah234
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The answer is the same. It depends on my range for seeing the flop. For example when I open UTG and the flop comes AQxr, if i bet i'm going to bet fairly big because that flop hits my UTG range alot. I will be betting that flop smaller when im on the button because my button range is weaker and does not connect so well with that flop compared to my UTG range.
In general, late position = smaller cbet size than early position but not all the time.
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blah234
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oh preflop. raising to 4x as a standard if you play tight is good. If you have a somewhat wider range lets say over 15%, it will open you up to being 3 bet and losing more money. Raise size should depend on how often you will get 3 bet in that position. I just raise to 3x all the time except on the button and raise to 3.5 or 4x if im trying to isolate a fish in the blinds.
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blah234
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15% is EP range, thats why we raise smaller on the button vs regs in the blinds because we expect to be 3 bet alot more.
KK hand villian is not flatting the 4 bet often even if you raise to like 22-24bb and even if he does you don't give him good enough odds to out flop you. If you ever want to 4 bet bluff there raising to 6 saves you 2 bb extra which you would of lost if you 4 bet bluff and villain jams over the top. Hero did not come across the commitment threshold but doesn't mean he should 4 bet smaller for maximum leverage.
A8 Nothing to really say because we didn't get to showdown to see villain's hand.
99 I miss the action in the hand and thought we were the preflop raiser. Watching it again hero made the right play of not continuing on that flop.
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Okay, so 4bet there to 26bbs is too big for balance purposes - got it!
and the A8 hand, I was more curious about your experience with such a thing (people clicking the check-call button basically blind). I would guess villain has a hand like 98 or getting tricky with AA/KK type hand?
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oh preflop. raising to 4x as a standard if you play tight is good. If you have a somewhat wider range lets say over 15%, it will open you up to being 3 bet and losing more money. Raise size should depend on how often you will get 3 bet in that position. I just raise to 3x all the time except on the button and raise to 3.5 or 4x if im trying to isolate a fish in the blinds.
Did your standard preflop raise change as you went through the stakes (3x vs 4x)?
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blah234
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i was taught to raise more from EP because my range was stronger before 100NL. After that I start playing more lag so my range is not longer that strong from UTG in my standard game so I stopped raising bigger.
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