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mitch

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Made a .5/1 6max deep video on Fulltilt. Was vs the same opponents on most tables and I had good reads. Some pretty fun spots, especially big bluff spots and some spots I could have played differently. All feedback (especially criticism) appreciated.

Download: http://membervideos.deucescracked.com/mitch/6292/MitchDeep2.mp4

Posted almost 3 years ago

mitch

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walrusbear

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Good video but I was pretty disappointed that you sound nothing like Neil Patrick Harris.

Right around 4 minutes on the top left table with the K992 hand did you give any thought to checking back for pot control? It doesn't seem like you're too likely to be getting called by worse.
6:43 top left I like your flat with the nuts on the river a lot. I generally just spaz shove it in with these spots but BTN is so weak here pretty much always that he can never call a huge bet. Given he's not probably not calling anyway but the call makes it a bit more likely.
18:10 bottom right. Are you pretty much always 3-betting crappy aces btn vs. co against decent regs?
26:35 bottom right. This 3-bet seems like it might be just a bit too thin. Particularly when you've got a loose player 250bb deep on the btn behind you.
39:55 top left. This fold seems really nitty to me. We're oop and deep but it was only a minraise and we're getting fantastic odds with a good hand.

Posted almost 3 years ago

mitch

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Right around 4 minutes on the top left table with the K992 hand did you give any thought to checking back for pot control? It doesn't seem like you're too likely to be getting called by worse.



We don't really want to give a free card to flushdraws and I think we're rarely getting raised as a bluff. Checking back here would be to induce rather than pot control. Vs players who would barrel off here after we checked I would certainly like checking.

18:10 bottom right. Are you pretty much always 3-betting crappy aces btn vs. co against decent regs?



In position I am, especially deep. We have an equity edge + position and this guy plays pretty straight forward. Also if we want to be 3betting this guy a lot in position we have to add this to our range for balance.

26:35 bottom right. This 3-bet seems like it might be just a bit too thin. Particularly when you've got a loose player 250bb deep on the btn behind you.



Yep, you're def right.

39:55 top left. This fold seems really nitty to me. We're oop and deep but it was only a minraise and we're getting fantastic odds with a good hand.



Maybe, I'm not really sure about these spots. Immediate odds don't really matter, postflop playability if far more important. Being 200bb deep OOP for the rest of the hand vs most likely 2 competent and aggressive opponents, it's a really tough situation and I'm not sure if this hand is good enough to justify sticking yourself into that spot.

Thanks for checking out the vid Smile

Posted almost 3 years ago

Entity

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Really good vid - unfortunately I had it on in the background while working on some stuff for DC, so I didn't note any specific hands I disagreed with (you played v. good, IMO, really liked your analysis on the hand on the top-right where you had the T-high flush vs. the guy's straight [he had 8764 I think]). Thanks for posting the vid and nice work. Grin

Rob

Posted almost 3 years ago

Bigvee

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Gonna check this out tonight - lookin forward to it

Posted almost 3 years ago

Teahupoo

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Thanks for posting this one Mitch. Got a ton out of it. Here are my notes and questions:

08:37 - 9Spade7Heart6DiamondJSpade
You flop three pair on a straight board with a BDFD and get check-potted. Can't we see a turn this deep? Or do you figure our implied odds are non-existent?

14:00 AClubAHeart4Heart9Club
I obviously realize we can't call this bet, but I'm having a hard time seeing how he could have a boat here. With it being a 3-bet pot, wouldn't he have check-jammed anything on the flop that would be a boat or any type of nut hand by the river? In his shoes it looks like it could be a good spot to turn a worse but made hand into a bluff. Something like a T that was calling the flop, hoping to pair up by the turn or a worse overpair with some backdoor or something. Then again, he could be trying to look polarized like your sick river pot bet with the 9-high flush near the start of the vid and, in the process, suckering in PLOobs like me who level themselves into calling.

17:31 QHeartAHeartQHeart8Heart
What do you think of Slurpis' play here? He was getting a great price on a bluff after the flop got checked around and The5ive min-lead the paired turn.

20:18 THeart5Heart9Diamond6Diamond
Do you ever iso-3-bet here from the BB? This seems like a pretty good spot against an even moderately aggressive opponent. I didn't catch if you have a read on the SB.

22:38 8DiamondQSpadeKDiamondKClub
You said that you might check back this flop back 100BB deep. What factors into your decision to do that there instead of here?

27:38 ADiamond9SpadeQSpade9Diamond
Awesome point about why you wouldn't c-bet here but would if the two villains swapped positions. I never really think about this when c-betting. Learning is fun!

29:23 7ClubQClubJDiamondQHeart
Why no call here? They are decent queens and it's likely multiway action with the fishies in the blinds. Bear in mind that I am guilty of over-optimistic set mines.

54:34 9Club3SpadeAClub7Spade
What about bet-folding the turn? How would you play this turn against a better player? Someone good will probably bet a lot bigger on the turn with his entire range but at the same time have a much wider range than AA** (or Q8T5 rainbow).

Posted almost 3 years ago

mitch

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08:37 - 9Spade7Heart6DiamondJSpade
You flop three pair on a straight board with a BDFD and get check-potted. Can't we see a turn this deep? Or do you figure our implied odds are non-existent?



You're right I like a call here this deep.

14:00 AClubAHeart4Heart9Club
I obviously realize we can't call this bet, but I'm having a hard time seeing how he could have a boat here.



He can just call flop with 45/T5 if he's passive enough and at these stakes my default assumption is people won't be turning Txxx/overpairs into a bluff here. It's kind of one of those spots where his value range is smaller but his bluffing range is even smaller.


17:31 QHeartAHeartQHeart8Heart
What do you think of Slurpis' play here? He was getting a great price on a bluff after the flop got checked around and The5ive min-lead the paired turn.



I don't like it, even though the5ive lead small, he lead into a 3way 3bet pot so I'd be putting his range on Jxxx/overpairs/goodflushdraws which arent folding to a small raise and are way ahead of SLURPIS's hand

20:18 THeart5Heart9Diamond6Diamond
Do you ever iso-3-bet here from the BB? This seems like a pretty good spot against an even moderately aggressive opponent. I didn't catch if you have a read on the SB.



It's a decent plan, although I give players a lot of credit here especially deep for AAxx/high rundowns which we're not doing terribly against but not great either. I totally missed even considering that as an option though so good find.


22:38 8DiamondQSpadeKDiamondKClub
You said that you might check back this flop back 100BB deep. What factors into your decision to do that there instead of here?



100bb deep I really don't want to get raised, and people play really straight forward vs you on turns when you checkback because they know you have a hand. 200bb he's going to be shoving a smaller range, calling with a larger range, and making it a super easy bet/fold.

29:23 7ClubQClubJDiamondQHeart
Why no call here? They are decent queens and it's likely multiway action with the fishies in the blinds. Bear in mind that I am guilty of over-optimistic set mines.



Calling here is def good.

54:34 9Club3SpadeAClub7Spade
What about bet-folding the turn? How would you play this turn against a better player? Someone good will probably bet a lot bigger on the turn with his entire range but at the same time have a much wider range than AA** (or Q8T5 rainbow).



Bet folding is decent, I guess I was a little too paranoid of AA** and was just going for potcontrol. Also on this board if we're ahead we have it pretty locked down so the value of getting people out of the pot for protection goes down. Vs a good player I'd Bet/fold for sure or maybe check/call because they'll be bluffing this board almost always.

Thanks for the feedback Smile

Posted almost 3 years ago

worpler

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Great Vid, jsut looking at it now - at about 4 mins you are talking about villains vpip being too flat across all positions...what do you think is a good vpip range as we gain position......ie UTG 10% , BTN 35% etc....

Posted over 2 years ago

mitch

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Great Vid, jsut looking at it now - at about 4 mins you are talking about villains vpip being too flat across all positions...what do you think is a good vpip range as we gain position......ie UTG 10% , BTN 35% etc....



Yeah that's decent numbers, BTN could be a little bit higher. I think in PLO you should focus more on the 'PFR when unopened %' which is basically how much you raise when its folded to you. Mine's 80% on btn and around 55 from CO.

Posted over 2 years ago

Uptown

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Great video. The comment about not liking hands like 9955ss in the SB, or 4466 utg when you're 200+bbs deep was enlightening Smile.

The only spot that I was surprised by was not putting a note on eypo @ 55minutes in the video when you saw him 3bet trash IP deep. Poke Tongue

Posted over 2 years ago




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