Table talk, do you use it?
What do you think of using chat to tilt your opponent occasionally? Do you use it? Do you talk back to those who do? Does it affect your play? What do you think of someone who does use it? Is there any ethics associated to chat in online poker?
Personally, I'll use it occasionally to try and tilt them further if I think they are getting angry or frustrated. It doesn't really take much usually to tilt the balance. I don't see anything wrong with it but I've definitely seen some people cross the line. (One guy once told me he'd go "get his gun, reload it" and then "shoot my dumbass".)
I'm curious what you guys think about it.
I don't use it because I find, especially when running more than one table, that it distracts from the task at hand. If one can handle multitasking: playing against an opponent and also predicting the adjustments + tilt that he is going to make due to chat, I'd imagine it would be very profitable. I'm just not there yet.
I don't think there are any ethics. Don't go over the line and get banned from your site by swearing/spamming, I guess.
I played a guy the other day and after about 3 hands he just typed "you're an idiot". Nothing had happened. We played a few more hands, he won a big pot, immediatley sat out, typed "idiot" and left. I was so tilted I had to take a walk. (I think the fact he was French didn't help).
Personally, I don't use it. I find it quite useful if villain chats just to get an idea of his psychological state/level of intelligence. Like this one guy who started telling me that he'd looked me up and found that my ROI% was low and that therefore I was a bad player. I explained to him that this was a cash game and we talk about ptbb/100, not ROI%. He went a bit quiet after that. Or this other guy who said that he was hacking into my computer to find my account password, then that he'd found it wand was able to see my cards.
What about when they shove and type "call" or "fold"?
I've got a theory about this, but I haven't tested it yet. Basically, it's that people want to call, they want to see your cards, and they will look for a justifiaction to do so. So you value shove, type in chat "call" or "fold", and it doesn't matter which because they will level themselves into calling either way (assuming they have somekind of hand obviously). So you only use it when you want value.
when some says something while shoving ai, it's never ever ever a bluff!!!!
A scandanavian told me to die, after 3 or 4 attempts at spelling it correctly. I laughed.
I do think some people are tiltable via chat though and it is worthwhile when you can spot them.
I use betting to tilt people.
Funny I saw this topic just now
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I was playing only a few hours ago, and my opponent 3bet pf when I had nothing great and then showed T7o and said HAHAAH in chat. I didnt think much of it, later on however he bet at me and I 3bet him with junk and showed and spewed back HAHAAH, immediately the next hand he 3bet and went on a huge bluff with nothing while I hit tptk w/ my AK, I doubt all opponents are this easy to manipulate, but I must say it was interesting, he immediately left when I called his river bet, probably furious.
Nice one Scout.
...but remember to be nice to the fish, we are kind of their employees. no need to tilt them. let them loose money AND loving it.
I've used table chat to fake tilt and get villains to call my value shoves light. I berated a player heavily after I declined his action and he sat in on another HUSNG I'd opened. Luckily, my first 2 hands were pocket jacks and AKs. I berated him before each hand, then open-shoved them. He ended up calling my AK with Ace-rag offsuit. I've also done it before when I lose a big pot or something happens in the match where opponents may think I'm tilted. It only works if you get a good hand immediately after, unfortunately.
...but remember to be nice to the fish, we are kind of their employees. no need to tilt them. let them loose money AND loving it.
I try to treat the people who give me action with a level of respect. Stripping the average fish of any dignity or enjoyment they might have doesn't keep them coming back.
Of course many fish are just berating you from the start. I'm more on the fence about this, but I tend to just try to ignore it and be polite regardless. I think you run the risk of getting hit and run when you berate them back---then they're looking for some trophy of victory (your stack) before quitting you forever. I think they're more likely to come back if you didn't provide their ego with that extra satisfaction.
I find it is pretty classless. I only revert to table talk if an opponent says something smarmy. I usually wait till they are stacked and then I say something like "nh." Usually these people are 1bi losers than they run but sometimes if they are trash talking and see that they feel it is necessary to prove their manhood by rebuying and losing more.
"chatters" used to tilt a lot more than they do today, but in general a "chatter" is more likely to go off for more buyins even today than a mime...i can't remember the last time i played a good chatter
