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Villain was 40/40 with a 30% 3b...he rarely flatted OOP

I had only 3bet villain twice before this and the 2nd time I 3b him he 4b me. This was my next 3b.

4bet and get it in???

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $53.50
BTN/SB: $107.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q A
BTN/SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5.50, BTN/SB raises to $16.50, Hero ???

Given that he's 4bet you already, he's likely to assume that you're going to tighten up your 3betting range ... so I wouldn't expect this to be a 4bet bluff, his range should be strong ... that being said, you shouldn't be turning AQ into a bluff, so ship until you have more information on what he's 4betting with in the spots (which you don't have yet).

I see people 4bet TT/99 a lot more than I would expect, your equity here should be decent especially if you add the occasional 4bet bluff on his part.

I wouldn't feel too happy about but I'd get it in. The thing is, you shouldn't 3b/f AQ vs someone who is capable of 4betting wide although his range is probably a lot stronger than when he 4bet the first time especially if those hands were close together in time.

I wouldn't feel too happy about but I'd get it in. The thing is, you shouldn't 3b/f AQ vs someone who is capable of 4betting wide although his range is probably a lot stronger than when he 4bet the first time especially if those hands were close together in time.

Winner -- get this in ASAP as played. Are these stats from 20 hands? 100? 200? Although 4bet percentage isn't directly correlated to 3bet percentage, I tend to think someone who 3bets as much as villain has will 4bet a wider range despite your own 3bet %.

Winner -- get this in ASAP as played. Are these stats from 20 hands? 100? 200?

It was over about 40 hands or so.

I think I would ship it considering you are going to miss the flop ~70% of the time and he is going to fire out a cbet. It is a shitty situation and it would heavily depend on whether or not you think he is an okay player or not. At 50NL, people make really really bad plays... might want to keep that in mind. I would ptr him. What was his 4bet sizing?

Cheers,

Dave

AIM: thecrocodiledave

yea i would also get it in. 40/40 means he is openraising 40%?

yea i would also get it in. 40/40 means he is openraising 40%?

not necessarily. His steal % from the btn is prob higher than 40%. 40/40 were his stats at the time of the hand but I didn't record what his steal % or btn open stat was. That 40/40 stat takes into account the times he folds from the bb too. FWIW his btn open was prob between 50-60%.

What was his 4bet sizing?

Cheers,

Dave

AIM: thecrocodiledave

Hero raises to $5.50, BTN/SB raises to $16.50

So like 3x.

Villain was 40/40 with a 30% 3b...he rarely flatted OOP

I had only 3bet villain twice before this and the 2nd time I 3b him he 4b me. This was my next 3b.

4bet and get it in???

Just to confirm, last time he 4b, you folded? What is your steal% when he's 3betting 30%? And what was your fold to 3bet/call 3bet/4b behaviour when he 3bet you?

Just to confirm, last time he 4b, you folded? What is your steal% when he's 3betting 30%? And what was your fold to 3bet/call 3bet/4b behaviour when he 3bet you?

I folded vs his 1st 4bet. My steal % against him was prob around 50. My fold to 3bet was prob 60-70%, call 3b% was prob ~30% and I hadn't 4bet him yet.

I folded vs his 1st 4bet. My steal % against him was prob around 50. My fold to 3bet was prob 60-70%, call 3b% was prob ~30% and I hadn't 4bet him yet.

Let's see.

If you jam, it's 48 to win 107 (or 106.50, if you count the rake.) That's 45%. That's the price of AQo vs 77 (88-JJ are up to 2% worse).

If he folds, you pick up $22. Now, he has to have a load of air in his range here IMO.

If he calls with 22+,AK+ (every hand that is ahead of you), that's 7.1%, and you still have 39% equity. In this situation, you need him to fold 23% of the hands that call to break even. AQo vs 22+,AJ+ gives you 44% equity before we consider any folds.

If his range is restricted to the hands that crush you (QQ+,AK), his jam-calling range is 2.6% of all hands, and only 1.9% of hands after you see your hand. In this case, you have equity of 24.4%, and need him to fold 23% of the time to break even.

For a wider range, 22+,AT+,KQs,KJs (11.3%), your equity is 47.9%, and you simply don't need any fold equity.

I think it's an easy shove. If he's shoving more than about 11%, you're making money, and the shove is worth somewhere between breakeven and $17 or so, if he's folding 90% and calling only monsters.

@ 50nl Id fold and quit this guy.

What about this one? This is the 7th hand of the match and villain looks like a decent aggressive regular (although his sizing is an indication of a bad regular). He already 3bet me once and c/r a 983 2tone flop.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($50)
($53.15)

Dealt to Hero A Q

raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, raises to $20, Hero ?

The problem is that I hardly ever expect him to make this bet with worse than AQ ever but he might have more PPs in his range. I do also think that his bluffing frequency is very tiny when he makes it that big.

In both cases, a 5B shove would be for value and also for FE against hands that are slight dog against us.

If you think AQo will be marginal to stack off vs Villain's range here, I would advice a fold as you had only invested 10 Blinds. Your edge in NL50 is so much more than these little marginal spots.



Another reason why I would also fold is because of villain's 4B sizing is too huge and he's risking too much even if he was bluffing or behind here.