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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by danzasmack (Mid Stakes)

Basically on the K56 board

There are flush draws, straight draws, and only the king. This is the kind of board you're going to get called on by all pocket pairs pretty much as well as some weaker hands and gutshots. At the same time he's going to call with some more stubborn hands like draws and mediocre kings. I'm not going to be able to profitably barrel the turn because I don't know (really) enough about his hand for me to make that bet. So I'm essentially just bloating the pot OOP.

The other thing you have to consider is that he's not going to bet this flop anywhere near 100% when I check to him.

I really don't think it'd be the WORST thing in the world to c-bet here, but if your opponent is over aggro or just in general aggro I'd look for dryer boards to be c-betting on.

Danza/Krantz,

At ~16:53 w/ TT, why are you so confident that this villain wouldn't vbet any spade on the end? If your hand is face up as a bluff catcher, wouldn't it be good to vbet any flush?

What was the plan w/ 76s if it was a low dry flop that didn't hit you, save a gut shot, and it was checked to you? Bet/fold? Check and bet turn if a blank hits and it's checked to you? Also, IME, you're right, when I go for an out right steal when checked to on this type of flop, I get shoved on more often then not. Also, what if you were in villain's shoes, do you like his play? How would you have played that draw? What if you were the 3 bettor w/ a broadway type on this flop? Bet flop and, obv. bet turn?

At 30:30, "spiked" FTW.

@ 41:00 w/ JT the donk/call, donk/... line is always a monster from donks, IME. I def. think you should check the turn to hit the g/s.

@47:00, AQo, would you have played AK on the river the same way or would a check call be best?

with the TT hand I think you misunderstood. He has to VB a flush obv. Krantz and I were talking about whether or not he would jam a naked spade as a bluff - say AX, and if that call, given the size of the shove vs. the size of the pot is profitable.

Given my read on the 67s hand I would take a free one if I flopped say, 259r. I expect to be getting c/r'd here by my opponent because his c-bet is very close to 100%.

Guys take a look at the post I quoted here and my post directly before that, about the frequency of flop check/raises in reraised pots and then consider why krantz and I so favor a flop check on the K56 board. A hand I would be peeling (67s on say a 952r board) is also checking. So again, I'm not bloating the pot OOP.

I don't mind his c/r there w/the 78s.

with the JT i can't check the turn he bet the flop and then bet the turn and I raised.

For the same reasons discusses with AQ I think check/call would be best.

i think the intro and epilogue are a bit inside jokey for my taste, but it has content. who cares how much people care about the video. what matters is the final product, and it is a good video

Here's the joke so the NL guys can get it - I like to make fun of Joe. A lot.

really nice, liked it a lot!

Here's the joke so the NL guys can get it - I like to make fun of Joe. A lot.

"I can not stress this enough."

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I still completely misunderstand the AQ on K65 board.
Sure there are flush draws, pocket pairs and random crap he is going to float with. And we are not folding better or getting called by worse very often, but we do fold like 22 and we do get called by flush and straight draws that we got decent equity against. If we check to him, he bets all his air and we fold the best hand a lot of the time. I just always used to think that K high boards not coordinated boards are pure gold to cbet on and its very hard to comprehend whats going on here.

What do you do if the board was rainbow?
What do you do if it was 100bb deep?

Basically on the K56 board

There are flush draws, straight draws, and only the king. This is the kind of board you're going to get called on by all pocket pairs pretty much as well as some weaker hands and gutshots. At the same time he's going to call with some more stubborn hands like draws and mediocre kings. I'm not going to be able to profitably barrel the turn because I don't know (really) enough about his hand for me to make that bet. So I'm essentially just bloating the pot OOP.

The other thing you have to consider is that he's not going to bet this flop anywhere near 100% when I check to him.

I really don't think it'd be the WORST thing in the world to c-bet here, but if your opponent is over aggro or just in general aggro I'd look for dryer boards to be c-betting on.

do u agree that if this was K65r this is a dream flop to c-bet on? if so, a flush draw definitely makes it worse but i still dont c how it becomes, to use krantz's words, "atrocious" as though it were some massive leak. also, if u c-bet and just get called u can (as u said in the vid) also narrow down his range greatly and if he just calls a turn barrel as well then you can almost certainly triple barrel as well profitably. if hes the type of player to call 3 barrels with K9o here then yeah maybe don't turn barrel since that entails a river one a lot of the time, but a c-bet still seems called for.

as an aside, if u check u intend to c/f i assume? i think this is one of those flops where ur hand is a little too good to open c/f since u have some outs if ur c-bet fails. so if u do want to c/f this flop some of the time i think itd be better to do it with like T9s instead where u have no equity. as an anology, say in 6 max (since im a 6max player) u raise 88 and get called by the button and the flop comes TJ6 with 2 hearts. this is a pretty terrible flop for ur hand but at the same time i dont want to c/f 88 which is still the best hand a lot of the time. so in those situations id cbet the 88 and c/f my 55 or 45s. what do u think of this randomisation procedure on these flops? and do u think using that logic c-betting AQ bd clubs here but c/f'ing T9s is better than c/f'ing ur entire range that missed?

with the JT i can't check the turn he bet the flop and then bet the turn and I raised.

right. I meant just call his small turn bet looking to spike a gutter to stack him. But, then again, If I know I'm this far behind (and, I can't remember what odds he's giving you to hit), I'd just fold the turn.

Are you talking about Muckleshoot in washington?

On the T9s at 30 minute, what is your plan if you don't hit a pair facing a bet ? Fold ?
If it's the case the flop float seem spewy since this villain seem fire second barrel with a high frequencie.

Thanks for the video guys, loved the 2-man discussion, loved the intro. I don't play HU much but it was great for just thinking about hand ranges and how to play vs them.

ok, the K56cc board is easy. think about the player you are playing, then think about what kinds of hands he is defending, then think about how often he will call your bet (more often and with a wider range given stack sizes), then think about how difficult it will be to win the pot any other way than hitting a Q or A (it will be like I said in the video nearly impossible to determine exactly what this guy has, whether it's a pair, gutshot, top pair, etc.), and checking becomes clearly superior.

if we had shallower stacks, not only do you have more fold equity on the flop with a bet, you can way more easily threaten his stack with a double barrel than you can here, so you also have more fold equity with a potential turn bet. also, if this were a tighter opponent we could more profitably c-bet.

lastly, think about what not c-betting every time you reraise does for you. it lets you maintain momentum, catch bluffs, and also buys you free cards and prevents you from getting put in really tough situations OOP this deep against aggressive players who have realized you c-bet 100% (not that this guy may ever notice, but he will certainly check back hands that would call c-bets and earn you free cards).

Danza/Krantz,

At ~16:53 w/ TT, why are you so confident that this villain wouldn't vbet any spade on the end? If your hand is face up as a bluff catcher, wouldn't it be good to vbet any flush?

What was the plan w/ 76s if it was a low dry flop that didn't hit you, save a gut shot, and it was checked to you? Bet/fold? Check and bet turn if a blank hits and it's checked to you? Also, IME, you're right, when I go for an out right steal when checked to on this type of flop, I get shoved on more often then not. Also, what if you were in villain's shoes, do you like his play? How would you have played that draw? What if you were the 3 bettor w/ a broadway type on this flop? Bet flop and, obv. bet turn?

At 30:30, "spiked" FTW.

@ 41:00 w/ JT the donk/call, donk/... line is always a monster from donks, IME. I def. think you should check the turn to hit the g/s.

@47:00, AQo, would you have played AK on the river the same way or would a check call be best?

At 47 min I would have bet AK because he can call me with worse kings but check AQ because there's no value with that hand. A medium king would probably be the cutoff point where I'd start to use it as a bluff catcher.

Guys, lemme know if I skipped any of your questions or you have any others, I will be monitoring this thread over the next few days but then it's off to work hard on my Season Five series!