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wrap_it

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
($30.85)
Hero ($50.16)

Dealt to Hero JClub THeart

Hero raises to $1.50, raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1

FLOP ($5) 7Spade 4Club 3Heart

checks, Hero checks

TURN ($5) 7Spade 4Club 3Heart QHeart

checks, Hero ?

This guy bought in for 20$ and was clicking buttons like a boss. During the first 30 hands he 3bet me 6 times or so, sizing wise ranging mostly from reclicks to 2x-2.5x. I'm always wondering whether I should take a stab and where. I really don't have any idea about what he's doing and what his range looks like but I also expect to lose at SD every single time.
Would you try to stab somewhere and would you just go for one and done or try to fire another barrel in case he calls with some weak pairs, A highs or other random draws? JT even has some equity if he has a weak pair. I'd probably just give up if I called his reclick with T6o.

Posted 12 months ago

DwelF

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I would normally just interpret these lines for what they look like, atleast until I have reason to suspect otherwise. So I'm gonna always stab this turn, and bet a ton of rivers aswell.

In situations like this I often think that stabbing only once is actually worse then checking down or stabbing twice.

Posted 12 months ago

wrap_it

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The big problem is that I have absolutely no idea what this guy is doing (and he probably neither lol) because as this hand played out, I bet the turn, he called and led a T river for half pot. I called and he showed up with KK.
It depends on the player if betting once or twice is good. Some will c/c twice with 4x or even AK, some will just c/f their air to one bet. Some will slowplay strong hands like that, some won't.

Posted 12 months ago

A-LX

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Yeah obliviously it depends on the player, but you will only find out how he will react if you actually bet here. In general I'm with DwelF, I interpret checks as weakness until proven otherwise. So I will most likely bet at least twice starting from the flop. In this case where you checked back and he checks to you a second time I'd definitely bet especially on that card.

Posted 12 months ago

Noreaga

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Nah i would never stab this turn against a fish, the way u beat these numbnuts is to make the least mistakes possible, and just value bet them to death.Reclicking fish are fun to play against, since they normaly have no clue about(hand ranges, board textures, good/bad cards to barrel) whatsoever.But if they start running hot, all hell breaks loose lol.Still i think they`re my most fav to play against, next to loose passives of course.

Posted 12 months ago

pickpokkit

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6 times out of 30. That tells us he is 3 betting a standard amount representing all playable hands. My standard against these guys is to 4 bet my good hands, flat my j10's, and value town him post flop.

Many of these guys are calling u down with any piece so you can become tighter with your post flop play. When u hit in a 4 bet pot a large continuation bet followed by jamming the turn is good. Fish has trouble playing bottom pair and draws now.

Posted 12 months ago

Foukus

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I think this is a spot you should check down most of the time considering the reads we got on the villain. If I decide to bluff, I'm gonna start on the flop and fire all streets, but that's not the best line against weirdish/bad guys with board texture like this.

Posted 11 months ago

uselink

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well we know that he dosent bet strng hand on the flop. but then all his bets must be weak hands or bluffs.

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Posted 11 months ago

Foukus

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well we know that he dosent bet strng hand on the flop. but then all his bets must be weak hands or bluffs.

?


Or he's just pressing them buttons. Don't be too analytical with these guys. Poke Tongue

Posted 11 months ago

uselink

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hehe yeah true actually. this has cost me some in the past before.. thanks for the reminder

Posted 11 months ago

henrik_kruse

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Just another comment: I think you should open smaller preflop against these guys as well

Posted 11 months ago

uselink

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Just another comment: I think you should open smaller preflop against these guys as well


Yeah basicly v this guy.. weak hand = small open.. strong hand = big open... They dont adjust to that at all

Posted 11 months ago




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