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Mentor: WiltOnTilt (#21) - 100NL with 2fouroffsuit

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Mentor: WiltOnTilt (#21) - 100NL with 2fouroffsuit by WiltOnTilt, 2fouroffsuit

WiltOnTilt brings in DC Coach 2fouroffsuit to give a fresh viewpoint on some 2-tabling 100NL heads up session.

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WiltOnTilt

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You say you want to 3bet this 22 to set up a 5b jam. But you dont even know if the opponent will have (enough) 4bet blufs? In a 6max game this would normally be very optimistic to jam over somebody's 4bet when you don't know if the player 4bet blufs enough.

What would be your weakest hand here to 3b/5b jam for value? AQ+ and 99? Do you think he will 4bet call 66-88 and AJ?



it's different early in a hu match when you are running the guy over with 3bets. I expect his range that 4bets us the first time to be extremely air heavy.

In hu reg on reg it's pretty standard to virtually always get it in with 88+ and AQ+, expanding out from there to either wider for value or wider for bluff depending on how your opponent adjusts, but the default assumption the way the games currently play is that the first 4bet is very often weighted heavily towards bluffs in situations where you have 3bet them several times in a row and they haven't fought back. As players become more aware of this dynamic, this will change (some already have).

Posted about 1 year ago

nemmad

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how do you guys ever get action HU? I try to play 50nl HU at Stars, but all tables with 1 player are regs, so not a lot fish who joins the games. Do you always play vs regulars? Or do I have to open on every network some tables and hope for action? What is the best advice?

p.s. thanks for your fast answer todayGrin

Posted about 1 year ago

simonpoker

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how do you guys ever get action HU? I try to play 50nl HU at Stars, but all tables with 1 player are regs, so not a lot fish who joins the games. Do you always play vs regulars? Or do I have to open on every network some tables and hope for action? What is the best advice?

p.s. thanks for your fast answer todayGrin



Its not easy but start playing on more sites(not sure its hugely important at HUNL50 because you should ahve plenty of action and unless you have fixed RB deal most sites nowadays pay back only to more active players so it might be reasonable to play maybe on one).And while waiting for action try sitting with other regs, not much more there is to do.

Posted about 1 year ago

nemmad

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Time Link to 00:02:46

Im searching to good flat ranges HU, im not sure if my range is good in this spot. You said in a vid I watched before that you liked to flat a lot suited hands. But now you say that 3betting J7s is better, so I made a stove with hands that I want to flat here. So hopefully you are willing to respond which hands are good to flat here and which hands not. We dont have reads on the player so hands like A2o are fold or 3bet hands. If we know the player is very passive we can call them preflop for getting cheap to showdown.

Im almost sure about those hands:
1. 88+, AQ+ 3bet/getin
2. QJs, KJs+, KJo+, AJs,AJo, 3bet for value/fold vs 4bet
3. 22-55, A2o-A7o, definitely 3bet blufs
4. A8o-ATo,A2s-ATs,K2s-KTs,QTs-Q7s,J8s-JTs,T9s-T8s,98s,97s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s,54s,43s,32s,KTo-K7o,QJo-Q8o,JTo-J9o,T9o,98o,87o,66-77 definitely flats
5. Now there are 57.5% hands left. I think its best to add 3betbluf hands like 75s, 96s, T7s, J7s, 85s, 64s,53s,42s,74s,63s extra to our 3bet blufs instead of a lot K2o-K6o with its blocker effect, but not much postflop ability, so if you add those hands you have a 3bet range of 19.8%. I think that are enough 3bets.

range 4: for copy in pokerstove: 77-66,ATs-A2s,KTs-K2s,QTs-Q7s,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,76s,65s,54s,43s,32s,ATo-A8o,KTo-K7o,Q8o+,J9o+,T9o,98o,87o

range 5: for copy in pokerstove: 88+,55-22,AJs+,KJs+,QJs,J7s,T7s,96s,85s,75s-74s,64s-63s,53s,42s,AJo+,A7o-A2o,KJo+

Posted about 1 year ago

2fouroffsuit

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Its not easy but start playing on more sites(not sure its hugely important at HUNL50 because you should ahve plenty of action and unless you have fixed RB deal most sites nowadays pay back only to more active players so it might be reasonable to play maybe on one).And while waiting for action try sitting with other regs, not much more there is to do.



In addition to this, I would recommend starting 6m tables and to branch out from thinking "I am a HU player" the principles of HU play are relevant in any shorthanded game. and you can 3bet ip!

Posted about 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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In addition to this, I would recommend starting 6m tables and to branch out from thinking "I am a HU player" the principles of HU play are relevant in any shorthanded game. and you can 3bet ip!



ya this

Posted about 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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Im searching to good flat ranges HU, im not sure if my range is good in this spot. You said in a vid I watched before that you liked to flat a lot suited hands. But now you say that 3betting J7s is better, so I made a stove with hands that I want to flat here. So hopefully you are willing to respond which hands are good to flat here and which hands not. We dont have reads on the player so hands like A2o are fold or 3bet hands. If we know the player is very passive we can call them preflop for getting cheap to showdown.

Im almost sure about those hands:
1. 88+, AQ+ 3bet/getin
2. QJs, KJs+, KJo+, AJs,AJo, 3bet for value/fold vs 4bet
3. 22-55, A2o-A7o, definitely 3bet blufs
4. A8o-ATo,A2s-ATs,K2s-KTs,QTs-Q7s,J8s-JTs,T9s-T8s,98s,97s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s,54s,43s,32s,KTo-K7o,QJo-Q8o,JTo-J9o,T9o,98o,87o,66-77 definitely flats
5. Now there are 57.5% hands left. I think its best to add 3betbluf hands like 75s, 96s, T7s, J7s, 85s, 64s,53s,42s,74s,63s extra to our 3bet blufs instead of a lot K2o-K6o with its blocker effect, but not much postflop ability, so if you add those hands you have a 3bet range of 19.8%. I think that are enough 3bets.

range 4: for copy in pokerstove: 77-66,ATs-A2s,KTs-K2s,QTs-Q7s,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,76s,65s,54s,43s,32s,ATo-A8o,KTo-K7o,Q8o+,J9o+,T9o,98o,87o

range 5: for copy in pokerstove: 88+,55-22,AJs+,KJs+,QJs,J7s,T7s,96s,85s,75s-74s,64s-63s,53s,42s,AJo+,A7o-A2o,KJo+



I'm not sure what the context was in terms of flatting a lot of suited hands. it might have been against a minraise?

You might check one of the pr1nnyraiding 3 videos regarding preflop play. Just recently I uploaded the pr1nnyraiding 3 charts for preflop play for someone else. Did you watch those vids?

Check the link here: http://membervideos.deucescracked.com/WiltOnTilt/14862/pr1nny3%20images.zip

It has some defaults for various preflop play.

Remember your oop range changes against a minraise or a 3x raise. The guy in this video is 3x'ing so i'd be 3bet or folding many of those hands in the #4 grouping there, but some I'd call a lot like A8o, QTs, A4s, and some of those that aren't clearly for value or clearly for bluff. Hand like 98o is not good enough for me to flat against opponents I respect who are opening 3x, although other good players I know will flat this hand and some even worse.

Check those charts and let me know if you have follow up questions.

Posted about 1 year ago

nemmad

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I'm not sure what the context was in terms of flatting a lot of suited hands. it might have been against a minraise?



mmm yes I think it was vs minraises yes, you said you want to flat all the suited hands because you get good odds.

You might check one of the pr1nnyraiding 3 videos regarding preflop play. Just recently I uploaded the pr1nnyraiding 3 charts for preflop play for someone else. Did you watch those vids?



No I didnt watch them, just started some Headsup this week besides my 6max for faster improving at postlop gameplay. I think I watched 2 or 3 vids now. I will definitely go watch those vids first now, for a better preflop understandingSmile tnx for the advice.

The charts are not 100% clear to me without explanation, so will first watch those vids. They seem to be a good teaser. Poke Tongue

Posted about 1 year ago

Pinko Panther

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Am I crazy to think this is a good board for our sixes and we should bet flop and consider calling off? Imo, I don't see a lot of Tx hands in people's 4bet flatting range (basically only ATs at best, it seems) and I think it's quite rare for players at this limit to try and get tricky with overpairs. I think protecting our equity here and just betting out seems like the best option to me. I mean, it seems fortunate for us that there is not A, K, or Q on this flop.

Posted about 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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Am I crazy to think this is a good board for our sixes and we should bet flop and consider calling off? Imo, I don't see a lot of Tx hands in people's 4bet flatting range (basically only ATs at best, it seems) and I think it's quite rare for players at this limit to try and get tricky with overpairs. I think protecting our equity here and just betting out seems like the best option to me. I mean, it seems fortunate for us that there is not A, K, or Q on this flop.



I think betting is reasonable. Getting c/r does suck though. Some people will (incorrectly, imo) defend some other Tx, and some people also c/r them (and also some, like myself, would just ship AT pre there a lot). It's hard to know who is who without getting to showdown. Sometimes when I'm faced with a situation where one play could be good but could also be really bad (bet/calling) and there's another play that is more clearly fine (checking/bluff catching) then I'll error on the side of the more clear move.

Under your assumptions I think bet/calling the 66 would be fine. I'm not quite as confident as you are about the Tx in his range. Even if we thought he had a lot of Tx in his range, it still might be a fine bet for protection, however the tricky part then is deciding if he is the type who will c/r or c/c with top pair here and we're back into a bit of no man's land.

Situations like these is exactly why I don't like the small 4bet with 66 to begin with. I'd much rather have 67s or K2s or A8o etc

Posted about 1 year ago




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