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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by WiltOnTilt (High Stakes)

when we flat the raise, i dont think i would open shove any turn cards and the stacks have just over a pot sized bet left, so depending on how I view his flop raise and turn betting range (and also, how he views my flop flatting range) i could be putting the rest in when hitting either my draw or hitting a pair

on the specific example the turncard kills villains action because we can rep full houses,but dont u think that in most turncards villain will shove ,making our flop flat with KQ -EV ?
also do u ever fight back with total air ? (on the vid u mentioned that u prefer to reraise small and fold to a shove with 67)

definitely not too thin given the right dynamic to c/r flop with 78 there. Also look at sweblin's question and response up above. Because of his 2barrel we can start moving some of our semibluffs to the turn (as well as our value hands, although 78 might be a little thin for c/c flop c/r turn)

i am a bit confused here..didnt u say that its hard to rep turn c/rs because most regs dont think we can c/r 1 pair hands?

my bad u are right.so ott villain does call the overbet with a marginal hand(for that board). what rivers are u willing to bluffcatch?i guess they are not that many thats why i am not sure if villains decision to call the overbet ott was right....do u think an Ace of hearts otr would make our bluffcatch decision easier?

good/tough question. On Ah river it means villain obv can't have it, and likely fewer semibluffs that hit, but at the same time if villain is good enough to overbet the turn because of what our range looks like, then we get that river, we also have to be concerned that he knows what our range looks like when we call. It ultimately depends on how heavy he weights our range toward pair+big heart and how many combos of marginal 1 pair hands he thinks we calls the turn with (and will fold the river). I think it's really hard to know what the right play is, but if I had seen my opponent miss value bets previously in the match in rather standard spots then I'd be more inclined to bluff catch here with Q8

on the specific example the turncard kills villains action because we can rep full houses,but dont u think that in most turncards villain will shove ,making our flop flat with KQ -EV ?
also do u ever fight back with total air ? (on the vid u mentioned that u prefer to reraise small and fold to a shove with 67)

I don't think villain will auto shove the turn on that many cards. When most people bet/call they have some kind of pair and on a lot of cards nothing changes and people don't fold like 8x here on blanks. I think on the scariest cards he can still bluff.

Yes I think fighting back with total air vs some opponents here is fine/good. 67 would be an OK example of that (I realize I said shoving the weakest draws, so we could shove this too as it's obviously pretty weak). It really is hard to talk about in a general way though because it just depends on what we've seen him do with various types of hands. If he's raise/calling with every J9 and flush draw and QJ etc then obviously shipping these hands wouldn't be so hot. If we've seen him not fastplay draws on semi-dry boards before and we can take some of those combos out, then it makes it a lot more attractive to bet/ship (or bet/small raise) 67 here to get him off the total air

i am a bit confused here..didnt u say that its hard to rep turn c/rs because most regs dont think we can c/r 1 pair hands?

yep, which is why you could consider c/c c/r 78 but i'd feel more comfortable with a better kicker. Remember if we're going to c/r 78 on the turn, we need the villain to be willing to value bet worse than 8x and call it... not just 2 barrel a lot. So what I'm saying is if we opt to not 3bet 99 pre or have K8 here or something like that, i'd feel more comfortable going for a turn c/r for value to balance some turn semibluffs because it gives a bunch more combos he can bet/call that are worse compared to a hand like 78.

Compare that to c/r the flop with 78 where we have his whole flop cbet range to play against for a bet/call... not all of those bet/calling hands keep value betting the turn when we just call the flop.

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Am I the only one that noticed him just showing down A2o in the hand seconds before this one? I have no idea what to think about what level this guy is on in terms of having just shown that exact hand in a similar situation, but it should be worth to note that this is a hugeee leveling game cause of that AQcc hand right?

Am I the only one that noticed him just showing down A2o in the hand seconds before this one? I have no idea what to think about what level this guy is on in terms of having just shown that exact hand in a similar situation, but it should be worth to note that this is a hugeee leveling game cause of that AQcc hand right?

flatting preflop? I didn't notice that

Hey on the upper right table w/ the KJo hand why do you say that the 4 is a better card for his range then ours? Isnt it a decent card for our range given that we are going to have a wider range on the BTN then he had in the BB and therefore connect better with this type of texture. I would assume his range to be wieghted toward one pair hands like A5,A8, K5s,K8s,8xs and maybe 67 and I would think that the one pair hands we can get to fold by the river a decent amount of the time

befintingu - do you have a timestamp? I dont remember when this hand happened

just to answer generally because I dont remember the board or situation... don't forget that it's true we "can have" more hands because we open raise more hands than he defends, but that cuts both ways since we have way more air (comparatively) as well.

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My bad thought I already put a Time stamp.

My bad thought I already put a Time stamp.

Yea so it's just a case where yes, it's true we can have every combo of 67 and he can't, we still have far more air on this turn than he does and it is generally a better card for his range of hands to c/c the flop than it is for us. As I mentioned, going for 3 streets here could be OK. I should note though that because he's pretty tight oop, he will have fewer pair+gutter hands here than some other looser player types would have. So it's not like it's a "great" card for his range, but overall it's probably better for him since a lot of his c/c range is either 8x or now some pair+gutter or occasional A3/67 (but it's true the guy probably c/r his 67 here often. I might have overstated the impact of this card on our opponent's range, given his pf oop tightness.

Good question.

hey nice vid guys! rly good footage! Is there a way to get glitteringprizes HUD somewhere?

10.21 into the video Hero opened with KJo and cb the 5d2c8c : Turn 4h , and you say the turn probably hits the villains c/c range more than Heros betting range and you would not barrel on, can you elaborate this pleaze?

I though our high opening range would be more likely to hit this low board hard, than a thighter BB calling range.

LoveYToo - read up a few posts

hey nice vid guys! rly good footage! Is there a way to get glitteringprizes HUD somewhere?

I dont think so, sorry. He's probably going to see this thread at some point so maybe he will upload it and post it?