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CZECHDONKY

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Hi guys.I have one question / problem about 3 betting LIGHT in HU .
I usually 3 betting light something like A2-A4,K2-K4,Q2-Q4 and 22-44.
? I dont know if i dont waste of value for 3 betting A2-A4,because its basically bluff. i think its a mistake FOLD these cards but,can i call or raise light ? Is it a LIGHT 3bet with A2-A4?
Yeah,the most important thing if i can profitable 3 betting light is % fold to 3bet by opponents,but i have problem with A2-A4 thanks for answers guys.
And last question : When opponents %fold to 3bet is say....85% (i meet this quys) i usually dont 3bet for value ( 99-AA,AT+,KJ+) but i really,really 3bet light very wide range.I think,its good and you ?And obvious i sometimes 3bet for value for balanced my range.....Thanks for tips guys

Posted over 1 year ago

chrisanagno

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obviously when u 3bet A2-A5o u do it for bluff right?i dont like it because ppl tend to call 3bets with hands that dominate A2-A5o.Its better to have hands like 67s,J9s in ur 3bet bluff range. In overall i dont think its even profitable to flat these small aces OOP to a 3x open.against a 2x open i might flat some of them...

Posted over 1 year ago

Gerbenator

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A2-A5 is a fold or 3bet to me, I never flatcall them. Unless villain is very, very, very passive postflop. I 3bet it because it has a blocker, therefor its good to 3bet it against someone who folds alot to 3bets. Since its now even less likely he has a strong ace, so even more likely he's going to fold. If someone folds very few to 3bets I just fold A2-A5 pre.

Posted over 1 year ago

chrisanagno

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A2-A5 is a fold or 3bet to me, I never flatcall them. Unless villain is very, very, very passive postflop. I 3bet it because it has a blocker, therefor its good to 3bet it against someone who folds alot to 3bets. Since its now even less likely he has a strong ace, so even more likely he's going to fold. If someone folds very few to 3bets I just fold A2-A5 pre.


why do u think A2-A5o are good 3bet cards?most villain will have lot of Ax (obv better) that call 3bets and have us dominated and most times stacked since we dont fold if we hit TP.But even when villain doesnt have Ax and we hit A we dont get value coz we are perceived to have a good ace...suited connectors,gappers etc have lot of flush/straight possibilities,disguide villains handreading and play much better against Ax,Kx.......

Posted over 1 year ago

marco

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watch DogIsHeadsUp series. They goes over ranges really well. ( episode 1 or 3)

Posted over 1 year ago

Gerbenator

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why do u think A2-A5o are good 3bet cards?most villain will have lot of Ax (obv better) that call 3bets and have us dominated and most times stacked since we dont fold if we hit TP.But even when villain doesnt have Ax and we hit A we dont get value coz we are perceived to have a good ace...suited connectors,gappers etc have lot of flush/straight possibilities,disguide villains handreading and play much better against Ax,Kx.......



A range of A6-AJ (considering he would 4bet AQ-AK) is 7.2%, if we hold an A in our hands he only holds A6-AJ 5.4%. Obviously we just want a fold to our 3bet, more then when we 3bet 67s, but he also WILL fold more often Smile.
Thats also why I said that I only 3bet it agains villains who fold alot to 3bets already.

My 3bet range in a vacuum
Value: AA-TT, KQo, KQs. AJo+, ATs+, KJs (8%)
Balancing: 22-66, A2s-A5s, A2o-A5o, 56s-67s, 68s (8%)

Posted over 1 year ago

huntse

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why do u think A2-A5o are good 3bet cards?



One reason is the blocker effect. If you hold an ace your opponent is about 20% less likely to have a premium (TT+, AQ+) by pure card removal.

Posted over 1 year ago

A-LX

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^ehh.. A2-A5o doesn't block out any TT-KK combos Poke Tongue

as for the initial question I would only 3bet Ace rag hands when villain folds a lot to 3bets because if he doesn't you'll end up in a lot of uncomfortable spots

Posted over 1 year ago

marco

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^ehh.. A2-A5o doesn't block out any TT-KK combos Poke Tongue

as for the initial question I would only 3bet Ace rag hands when villain folds a lot to 3bets because if he doesn't you'll end up in a lot of uncomfortable spots




+1 your range needs to be derived based on how the villain plays

Posted over 1 year ago

huntse

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^ehh.. A2-A5o doesn't block out any TT-KK combos Poke Tongue



Err, right. So that might be why I said 20% less likely to have TT+, AQ+ , not 20% less likely to have TT-KK?

The point being say for arguments sake you think someone is only going to 4-bet for value or fold, then if you have an ace in your hand they are about 20% less likely to 4-bet you for value (assuming their 4-bet value range is TT+,AQ+).

Posted over 1 year ago

A-LX

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oh yeah, you're right I misunderstood

Posted over 1 year ago

chrisanagno

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well yea Axs does well against 4bet(by bluffshoving) but i very rarely see ppl in 100nL-200nL having (IF they have) a balanced 4beting range..most ppl tend to flat 3bets and not bluff 4bet...

Posted over 1 year ago

stachan005

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Thanks guys and last question,when i have a wide bluff 3bet range vs someone who fold too much,i have say 70% range as bluff,but am i too exploitable ? Or is it good ?

Posted over 1 year ago

Trix

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It doesnt matter if you are exploitable if your opponent doesnt adjust.

Posted over 1 year ago




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