CZECHDONKY
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Hi guys.I have one question / problem about 3 betting LIGHT in HU .
I usually 3 betting light something like A2-A4,K2-K4,Q2-Q4 and 22-44.
? I dont know if i dont waste of value for 3 betting A2-A4,because its basically bluff. i think its a mistake FOLD these cards but,can i call or raise light ? Is it a LIGHT 3bet with A2-A4?
Yeah,the most important thing if i can profitable 3 betting light is % fold to 3bet by opponents,but i have problem with A2-A4 thanks for answers guys.
And last question : When opponents %fold to 3bet is say....85% (i meet this quys) i usually dont 3bet for value ( 99-AA,AT+,KJ+) but i really,really 3bet light very wide range.I think,its good and you ?And obvious i sometimes 3bet for value for balanced my range.....Thanks for tips guys
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chrisanagno
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obviously when u 3bet A2-A5o u do it for bluff right?i dont like it because ppl tend to call 3bets with hands that dominate A2-A5o.Its better to have hands like 67s,J9s in ur 3bet bluff range. In overall i dont think its even profitable to flat these small aces OOP to a 3x open.against a 2x open i might flat some of them...
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Gerbenator
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A2-A5 is a fold or 3bet to me, I never flatcall them. Unless villain is very, very, very passive postflop. I 3bet it because it has a blocker, therefor its good to 3bet it against someone who folds alot to 3bets. Since its now even less likely he has a strong ace, so even more likely he's going to fold. If someone folds very few to 3bets I just fold A2-A5 pre.
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chrisanagno
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A2-A5 is a fold or 3bet to me, I never flatcall them. Unless villain is very, very, very passive postflop. I 3bet it because it has a blocker, therefor its good to 3bet it against someone who folds alot to 3bets. Since its now even less likely he has a strong ace, so even more likely he's going to fold. If someone folds very few to 3bets I just fold A2-A5 pre.
why do u think A2-A5o are good 3bet cards?most villain will have lot of Ax (obv better) that call 3bets and have us dominated and most times stacked since we dont fold if we hit TP.But even when villain doesnt have Ax and we hit A we dont get value coz we are perceived to have a good ace...suited connectors,gappers etc have lot of flush/straight possibilities,disguide villains handreading and play much better against Ax,Kx.......
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marco
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Gerbenator
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why do u think A2-A5o are good 3bet cards?most villain will have lot of Ax (obv better) that call 3bets and have us dominated and most times stacked since we dont fold if we hit TP.But even when villain doesnt have Ax and we hit A we dont get value coz we are perceived to have a good ace...suited connectors,gappers etc have lot of flush/straight possibilities,disguide villains handreading and play much better against Ax,Kx.......
A range of A6-AJ (considering he would 4bet AQ-AK) is 7.2%, if we hold an A in our hands he only holds A6-AJ 5.4%. Obviously we just want a fold to our 3bet, more then when we 3bet 67s, but he also WILL fold more often
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Thats also why I said that I only 3bet it agains villains who fold alot to 3bets already.
My 3bet range in a vacuum
Value: AA-TT, KQo, KQs. AJo+, ATs+, KJs (8%)
Balancing: 22-66, A2s-A5s, A2o-A5o, 56s-67s, 68s (8%)
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huntse
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A-LX
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^ehh.. A2-A5o doesn't block out any TT-KK combos 
as for the initial question I would only 3bet Ace rag hands when villain folds a lot to 3bets because if he doesn't you'll end up in a lot of uncomfortable spots
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marco
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^ehh.. A2-A5o doesn't block out any TT-KK combos 
as for the initial question I would only 3bet Ace rag hands when villain folds a lot to 3bets because if he doesn't you'll end up in a lot of uncomfortable spots
+1 your range needs to be derived based on how the villain plays
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huntse
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^ehh.. A2-A5o doesn't block out any TT-KK combos 
Err, right. So that might be why I said 20% less likely to have TT+, AQ+ , not 20% less likely to have TT-KK?
The point being say for arguments sake you think someone is only going to 4-bet for value or fold, then if you have an ace in your hand they are about 20% less likely to 4-bet you for value (assuming their 4-bet value range is TT+,AQ+).
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