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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by WiltOnTilt (Micro/Small Stakes)

why is our assumption that this is the same guy if we play anonymous tables ?

esp after 1 guy sits out and the other doesn't I think the assumption should be that they are diffrent players. Also their defending BB stats are hughly different

why is our assumption that this is the same guy if we play anonymous tables ?

because the guy made the video for me to analyze, i thought he set up a match. either way it doesn't really matter but makes it easier to discuss things for the video.

Time Link to 00:04:21

Wilt, what do you think about this hand on the left?

Basically this is one of the worst boards for our range. I don't really know what to here. If I bet, I expect him to either float or raise a lot. If I check, I expect him to at least 2 barrel basically always.

Wilt, what do you think about this hand on the left?

Basically this is one of the worst boards for our range. I don't really know what to here. If I bet, I expect him to either float or raise a lot. If I check, I expect him to at least 2 barrel basically always.

I agree this board isn't super great for our range but if villain knows that then he should know that we aren't cbetting all of our air here. We have one of the better "air" hands (I call it air since we are going to feel uncomfortable c/c'ing down with this hand), so given that we probably have 9 outs a good amount and our hand is of similar strength to a hand like KQ which you would probably be cbetting as well.

The nice part about this board too is that he will have a lot of medium strength pieces where we can put him in a spot to face multiple barrels. Most people fast play their good hands here too much for fear of "bad" turns and rivers, so when he does just flat you, you are in a good spot to keep firing.

So start with a bet and if he raises then just fold. Your range on this board can stand a raise much better than other boards because you'll be c/f'ing so much air here.

because the guy made the video for me to analyze, i thought he set up a match. either way it doesn't really matter but makes it easier to discuss things for the video.

i like your teaching style and i love your videos. You are the biggest reason i am a regular subscriber. i dont wanna come of as a troll, but in my opinion you are completely wrong here

How would it be easier to discuss if we just merge ranges of 2 different guys ?

if all our assumptions are made by combining reads of two different guys i dont see how is this good for the discussion

i like your teaching style and i love your videos. You are the biggest reason i am a regular subscriber. i dont wanna come of as a troll, but in my opinion you are completely wrong here

How would it be easier to discuss if we just merge ranges of 2 different guys ?

if all our assumptions are made by combining reads of two different guys i dont see how is this good for the discussion

I should have asked Foukus ahead of time if he set up the match so I would have known for sure. Then I got worried about potentially confusing reads gained at showdown because they are both called Player 1. Then also I guess I made a bad assumption that since they both sat down at virtually the same time that they were the same player.

Sorry about all of that. Throughout most of the video the sample sizes were small enough that I was attributing the differences in stats to being within a fairly normal variance range but by the time the video was over, you are right that they were definitely 2 different guys.

Hopefully it didn't ruin the content too much, if it did I apologize. If you want to submit a vid for me to review next time I'll do it to make it up to you

WoT

I should have asked Foukus ahead of time if he set up the match so I would have known for sure. Then I got worried about potentially confusing reads gained at showdown because they are both called Player 1. Then also I guess I made a bad assumption that since they both sat down at virtually the same time that they were the same player.

Sorry about all of that. Throughout most of the video the sample sizes were small enough that I was attributing the differences in stats to being within a fairly normal variance range but by the time the video was over, you are right that they were definitely 2 different guys.

Hopefully it didn't ruin the content too much, if it did I apologize. If you want to submit a vid for me to review next time I'll do it to make it up to you

WoT

well there weren't really situations where it actually did matter maybe 1 or 2 situations.
so it did not ruin the content.

I just wanted to get things straight and to alert the players that we should always assume we are playing different opponents unless we made an arrangement with the player prior to the match.
we obviously dont know if we are playing the same opponent or not so our first assumption should be that we play vs different villains .


i liked the video and learned from it . your content is always top notch

Thank you for your offer and if u are willing to go trough the agony of reviewing nl20hu play (i have a good RB so the rake is not that big) i would be more than happy to record a session

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good vid Wilt, couple of questions:

the hand timlined where Jun c/r the flop of 6-6-4ss with 7-8, on the river should villain be betting pretty big with his entire range on the river?? including his 4-x type stuff that he had called twice with as a bluff catcher just to win the pot more % of the time as hero's range is capped somewhat to kinda weak showdown (which might have villains showdown beat ) and missed draws for the most part??
* sometimes hero will have a boat or a straight and check the river back due to the flush draw bricking or for some other reason to induce from villain maybe, and it might not work out i guess.

Hero's river check - do you think it would be better to check or bet small here if your hero, i was just wondering that once hero checks villain could exploit him pretty well for the most part by at worst betting missed flush draws and floats then even turning worse hands into bluffs ??

Thanks
Steve

good vid Wilt, couple of questions:

the hand timlined where Jun c/r the flop of 6-6-4ss with 7-8, on the river should villain be betting pretty big with his entire range on the river?? including his 4-x type stuff that he had called twice with as a bluff catcher just to win the pot more % of the time as hero's range is capped somewhat to kinda weak showdown (which might have villains showdown beat ) and missed draws for the most part??
* sometimes hero will have a boat or a straight and check the river back due to the flush draw bricking or for some other reason to induce from villain maybe, and it might not work out i guess.

Hero's river check - do you think it would be better to check or bet small here if your hero, i was just wondering that once hero checks villain could exploit him pretty well for the most part by at worst betting missed flush draws and floats then even turning worse hands into bluffs ??

Thanks
Steve

Excellent question, Steve. Yes villain should be quite inclined to turn most of his worse hands than 8x into bluff here. We are very much representing what we have, some turned/river showdown value or air giving up.

As to whether its better to bet or check, i think if I was betting here, it would be as a bluff, so I would want to bet bigger to continue to rep 75/6x/boat. I think checking is generally better because I think most people are either folding the turn with their draws enough or not turning worse bluff catchers into bluff enough to let us just play very exploitably here. Certainly against expert players, maybe part of the value from bluffing this river would come from avoiding ourselves from making a bad check/fold. I would say we could just c/c this hand sometimes, but keep in mind how many combinations of value hands villain likely plays this way every single time, and have a clear value bet on the river when we check. It might be a good exercise to count up all the combos of the draws we think he might peel the turn with, and combos of 4x, 55, etc that might play this way (and might bluff) and compare that to some of the weaker 6x, boats, and overpairs that probably play this way every time and see just how light he needs to call the turn for a river c/c to be good.

yea good points Wilt thanks, i'll have a look at counting up the combo's, i could do with some pratice at that for sure