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Duel: 2fouroffsuit (#1) - Heads Upside Down

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Duel: 2fouroffsuit (#1) - Heads Upside Down by 2fouroffsuit

2fouroffsuit introduces his new series of micro-stakes HU theory and practice.

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  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 48 minutes long
  • Posted almost 2 years ago

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StueysKid

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I recommend the entire Dogisheadup series. Episode 1 should be mandatory for anyone looking to improve. I'm not currently a HUNL player, but the concepts even in the later episodes apply to ring games also, and it's just a sick sick series that really gave me more of a foundation to my game.

Excellent concept for a series 2fouroffsuit! Chat with you later

Posted almost 2 years ago

chrisbroholm

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Sorry 24 gotta give a bit of negative feedback here, hope you don't mind - your other HU videos have been very good and insightful so I'm sure its probably just a bit of "variance" :-)

Basically I felt like this video took about 45 minutes to say something that you could say in maybe 10 minutes or a few lines of text. Furthermore i felt like the topics weren't really expanded on enough, so it felt like a bag of tips coming from all directions without actually providing anything that couldn't be mentioned in your next videos.

I know this is an introduction but after viewing the video I must admit I'm not sure what the purpose was, if the purpose was to say "This is what im going to talk about in my series" then your first or last slide would have sufficed, if the purpose was to genuinely introduce microstakes HU then I feel like it fails a bit. It's like if i write:

- There's more variance in HU

Not only do most people already know this but then taking like 5-10 minutes of videos explaining what that statement means and going into detail about coolers and setups, just doesn't really seem to be much useful knowledge I mean I expect most on DC to know that variance = bad and so when you say more variance people know, okay I have to look out for that in HU and take it into consideration.

The big slide about the strategies and everything also seemed rushed and again trying to talk over way too many concepts at the same time and then in the end not really providing anything more than the line of text in the powerpoint. Even If I were a complete beginner I would be confused because you'er just quickfiring a bunch of different things that sort of assume that people have prior knowledge, but those people will generally know that you have to obtain reads and change your play depending on villain.

You bring up many good tips touching on starting out, brm, reads, playing with a strategy, watching other series to improve etc etc but I'm just not sure why it required an entire video, when those tips would be kinda great to get in the context when you go over more in-depth theory later or even during slow gameplay.

I liked the idea about an introduction to HU play, hopefully this was just a introduction to the introduction and we'll see some more substance in the next episode.

Again no offence or anything intended, i'd just like to offer my feedback on your vid - I imagine you'd like this before your real series starts rather than later.

Posted almost 2 years ago

2fouroffsuit

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@chrisbroholm

I appreciate the feedback, no offense taken!

Low stakes heads up is at a weird place where 50nl is usually about the first level that people jump into it, so at 50nl you have a weird mix of people that have no experience trying out heads up for the first time, have some experience, and are HU regulars. I am hoping to get everyone on somewhat the same page when we talk about figuring out the ways to deal with our opponents.

I agree that people understand that they need to develop reads and change play based on their opponents, but they often have a hard time knowing how or why to do so. The true aim of this series is to provide a framework of sorts to go about making those adjustments.

I hope that in the review session, the checklisting idea that I talk about in this introduction video and putting together a complete strategy will make more sense when we see it in action.

Again I appreciate the feedback and am open to any suggestions to help people better learn HU NL Smile

Posted almost 2 years ago

Englishfrank

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When you got the time and if you are willing, please teamview and watch me do some sng 2dollars HU and critisize me alot please. I am so confused.

Posted almost 2 years ago

2fouroffsuit

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When you got the time and if you are willing, please teamview and watch me do some sng 2dollars HU and critisize me alot please. I am so confused.



Well what do you think that you're having the most trouble with? Have you checked out some of the videos that I mentioned?

Posted almost 2 years ago

SnappieVouz

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I mean I expect most on DC to know that variance = bad



Variance is not bad, variance just is. + we win money because of variance.

Posted almost 2 years ago

chrisbroholm

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Variance is not bad, variance just is. + we win money because of variance.



Not sure how to answer your statement its obvious that positive variance is the best thing ever, but I think the idea of the statement in the video was to give a fair warning that if you already find it hard coping with the swings of say FR then HU will be a lot worse.

My original sentence didn't make much sense though, so its fair enough Poke Tongue

Posted almost 2 years ago

Ass Get to Jigglin

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Variance is not bad, variance just is. + we win money because of variance.



agreed. if you want low variance, play tic-tac-toe. higher variance by no means less skill.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Ass Get to Jigglin

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24o- how many episodes will this series be? congrats man. . .

Posted almost 2 years ago

2fouroffsuit

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This is going to be a four part mini series although there may be some more as well. One thing that will definitely help is some more user videos.

It's basically free coaching! Please post in this thread or PM me a link!

Posted almost 2 years ago

LHE Student

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Regarding your comments on tilt. I have a short threshold for playing when I get frustrated. I go for days and sometimes weeks of not playing, and that is my form of tilt. It has stunted my poker growth. I'm going to take your advice and keep more detailed notes in a notepad.

Posted almost 2 years ago

2fouroffsuit

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Regarding your comments on tilt. I have a short threshold for playing when I get frustrated. I go for days and sometimes weeks of not playing, and that is my form of tilt. It has stunted my poker growth. I'm going to take your advice and keep more detailed notes in a notepad.



Great example!
So let's start off with why do you get frustrated in the first place?

Secondly, I know what you mean as far as not wanting to play for long stretches, for myself and what I've seen of most other people this happens during a downswing or stretch of continually losing. So let's take "I don't want to play" and ask our self "what's REALLY wrong here?" For most people i think that the answer is pretty clearly "I don't want to lose."

So while poker isn't a game where you can just say "I'm not going to lose this session", it's not really the playing that's the issue.

For me I always enjoy thinking about the game. So I find that when I discuss a hand history, or watch a video, or do something to get myself thinking about poker before I start playing, I play a lot better and am more confident.

Set yourself some modest goals. Something like I want to play at least 1000 hands this week (which is not a lot at all) or I want to play at least three 30min sessions this week. And do it.

I am usually a big proponent of playing when you are really feeling good and ready to play your A-game but if the alternative is never playing at all, then let's play less than our A-game (bandaid solution)and work towards playing it more and more (real solution) rather than never playing and never improving.

Start a blog! http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/LHE-Student

Posted almost 2 years ago

LHE Student

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Great example!
So let's start off with why do you get frustrated in the first place?

Secondly, I know what you mean as far as not wanting to play for long stretches, for myself and what I've seen of most other people this happens during a downswing or stretch of continually losing. So let's take "I don't want to play" and ask our self "what's REALLY wrong here?" For most people i think that the answer is pretty clearly "I don't want to lose."

So while poker isn't a game where you can just say "I'm not going to lose this session", it's not really the playing that's the issue.

For me I always enjoy thinking about the game. So I find that when I discuss a hand history, or watch a video, or do something to get myself thinking about poker before I start playing, I play a lot better and am more confident.

Set yourself some modest goals. Something like I want to play at least 1000 hands this week (which is not a lot at all) or I want to play at least three 30min sessions this week. And do it.

I am usually a big proponent of playing when you are really feeling good and ready to play your A-game but if the alternative is never playing at all, then let's play less than our A-game (bandaid solution)and work towards playing it more and more (real solution) rather than never playing and never improving.

Start a blog! http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/LHE-Student


Thanks. I started playing today and have a different mindset. I'm going to start playing more often, and start off small by playing 1000 hands for the first week.

Posted almost 2 years ago

2fouroffsuit

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Time Link to 00:34:37

I stumbled across a much better analogy today (me nerding out to Starcraft 2) . Source: Day9 daily #315 ~3:20-4:45

"In this book, David Sirlin describes the landscape of strategies as mountains. That when you start to try to learn a strategy you start climbing and trundling up this mountain and then you are constantly in your journey trying to reach the peak of this mountain. That is, to play this strategy as optimally and as well as you can. But all of a sudden you hit the top of mountain. You've mastered this strategy. And you need to lok around you and realize... There are higher mountaintops! There are taller peaks. I might be playing this strategy as well as I can, but it might not be the best strategy that there is. and so it is off on your journey to begin a new climb up there..."

Posted almost 2 years ago




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