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Hero (BTN/SB): $83.37
BB: $57.40

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with A J
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) Q Q J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9.00) T (2 players)
BB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($18.00) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $13.50

just a standard question.

against an aggro lag who knows what he's doing. should i always fire on the flop as my default line?

thanks.

also, is calling the river good here? given the line we took at the flop and the turn?

My std would be to bet the flop here vs the vil u described. I dont think we get ck-raised that much and he can ck/call some hands like AK,AT,77-TT.

As to the river spot I am not that thrilled with calling tbh even tho we have a hand that is at the tip top of our range given how the action played out. We need to be good around 30% of the time and I just dont think you will see this line taken as a bluff here that much to justify calling, even with the top of our range that is semi-under repped. I think id be fine with a fold.

some 3-betting history with villain.

Hero (BTN/SB): $42.51
BB: $54.33

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with Q A
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $16, BB raises to $30, Hero raises to $42.51, BB calls $12.51

Flop: ($85.02) 9 Q 5

Turn: ($85.02) 2

River: ($85.02) 5

Final Pot: $85.02
Hero shows Q A
BB shows K 8
Hero wins $84.52
(Rake: $0.50)

and...

Hero (BTN/SB): $80.62
BB: $53.01

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 3
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) 8 T 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9.00) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.00) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

Final Pot: $24.00
Hero shows 3 3
BB shows J A
Hero wins $23.50
(Rake: $0.50)

thoughts? does this change how we play against him?

You should auto-reload (AQ hand)

Your 4bet size is also way too big. Make it between 11.50 and 13.50... especially since we're a bit shallower here.

Snap call after seeing the other 2 hands. I would not say he knows what he's doing after seeing those.

Especially considering he checked a weak showdownable hand (AJ) as the PFA and then decided to bet (though I'm not sure if it's a bluff or super thin value!) on the river. We only need to be good 30% to break even.

some 3-betting history with villain.

Hero (BTN/SB): $42.51
BB: $54.33

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with Q A
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $16, BB raises to $30, Hero raises to $42.51, BB calls $12.51

Flop: ($85.02) 9 Q 5

Turn: ($85.02) 2

River: ($85.02) 5

Final Pot: $85.02
Hero shows Q A
BB shows K 8
Hero wins $84.52
(Rake: $0.50)

and...

Hero (BTN/SB): $80.62
BB: $53.01

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 3
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) 8 T 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9.00) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.00) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

Final Pot: $24.00
Hero shows 3 3
BB shows J A
Hero wins $23.50
(Rake: $0.50)

thoughts? does this change how we play against him?

River becomes closer to a call (im still ok folding) but the flop I dont think changes at all, I still like betting.

To clarify why im still ok with a fold. The hand where he bluffs you with AhJh the flop texture may not be an auto cb for him even with hands that have no SD value like KJ,JQ,Kxs,Qxs etc, so he can get to the riv with a good amount of air that he may desperation bluff.

The hand in question flop QQJ T 6. I would assume all of his hands that have no sd value are betting (unlike hand 1) as well as his Jx's and Qx's ( he may ck Qx some % for deception) so on the turn I think he is less air heavy and was either going to ck-raise u with Qx or he just got there with AK/TT or poss even has some slow played AA/KK. He is not repping very many hands but I think hes gonna show up with them a lot esp given he has bet the turn and u have called so he knows u have some piece. The hand he bet AhJH on the riv u had shown no interest in the pot the entire hand so he could have just assumed ur always folding the riv.

A lot of this is based on vil cb strategy but judging from the hand where he ck'd the flop with AhJh I think he has some clue as to brd texture.

Walkoflife, do you not think that Villain could be v-betting worse here. our hand looks like a marginal made hand with some SD value imo, so Ace high some amount, weak J's and smaller PP's. so i think he could have checked the flop with JT/J9, AT/KT or any Tx hands really and has now decided that he has the best hand and is going for value with a pair? also, from the other 2 hands i think we can make the conclusion that there is some illogical reasoning going on here from him, and folding the top of our range to an illogical player seems like a mistake to me.

Walkoflife, do you not think that Villain could be v-betting worse here. our hand looks like a marginal made hand with some SD value imo, so Ace high some amount, weak J's and smaller PP's. so i think he could have checked the flop with JT/J9, AT/KT or any Tx hands really and has now decided that he has the best hand and is going for value with a pair? also, from the other 2 hands i think we can make the conclusion that there is some illogical reasoning going on here from him, and folding the top of our range to an illogical player seems like a mistake to me.

I agree with you for sure. I am OK finding a fold depending on what u think his cb strategy is up to this point but based on what he did in a previous hand you are right, he is pretty random and you could base your call off that fact alone. I just wanted to go a little further than "he seems random so call" and spark some discussion for both sides.

I have seen a lot of people I coach make the call with out thinking more than "cant fold hes a weirdo" and they get shown the nuts, 15 hands later a similar spot comes up "cant fold he is a weirdo" and he shows them the nuts again and they keep making this mistake over and over again not making an adjustment to their thought process and then chalking it all up to a cooler. (hope this makes sense if not I can try to clarify further )

So based on what OP really thinks at the time I can see a fold. I would call personally the first time and make adjustments if need be. Basically don't fall into that trap because sometimes you may have information enough to make some folds that seem odd or not std, even vs the randoms.

I get you I wanted to see if I was thinking somewhat correctly.