Time Link to 00:14:14
how about CR river?
say you did, how strong of a hand does tom need to call here? 2 pair?
is he calling with Qx?
Edit:
too much money to put in with not enough value hands in your range?
Ansky continues his review of his high stakes match against durrrr from the first session he played.
Dani recreates a $40kNL match he played vs the infamous and enigmatic Tom "durrrr" Dwan in 2008.
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Time Link to 00:14:14
how about CR river?
say you did, how strong of a hand does tom need to call here? 2 pair?
is he calling with Qx?
Edit:
too much money to put in with not enough value hands in your range?
Time Link to 00:18:00
tom bets pot on turn when checked to, is this size standard?
after you donk flop and then check turn arn't you often CF?
thanks a lot for making these. really good, honest and open examination of the session(s?).
though a lot of unl and ssnl guys probably worry that the stuff in these videos might be too complicated or fancy or whatnot for them to apply, it really helps them to see how even at these stakes, poker is still about small, calculated deviations from GTO.
working my way through these slowly...
Time Link to 00:21:53
With what types of hands would opponent want to take a free card here? He raised preflop from SB, and the flop was QJ9 monotone. If it had been like Q72 monotone, should he then tend to cbet more often?
I was thinking that monotone flops are good flops for bluffing, and also that you need to protect your hand on monotone flops as well. Thus, it is almost like you do need to cbet them most of the time. But given what you said in the video, I think I might be looking at this incorrectly.
Time Link to 00:23:08
I think checking the river here might be an interesting move to extract the most value from his hands, a lot of which are most likely missed draws that can't call but might bluff, and if he has a strong hand like a flush he bets anyway right? What do you think?
Time Link to 00:31:53
I think he has clubs / pocket 4's- 8's / pure overs that turn a gutshot (maybe he raises those though OTT or shoves w/ them reading your small bet as weakness?) Would he ever fold a bad 9? not sure on that one.
Time Link to 00:41:10
What can Durrrr put you on here that makes sense for you to take this line? I can think of
AJ KJ hh QJ hh any jx of hearts really, and JT. However would you really be shoving this river with sets / 2 pair?if NO then out of your entire range that is pretty slim compared to all the other hands that get to the river and check behind or at least don't shove. With that in mind do you think it's a lot easier for Tom to put you on a bluff?
With a guy like Tom isn't it a lot more about what YOU could illegitimately have compared to how many jacks he can have? I mean if he thinks it's a good river to bluff and a lot of your hands are not shoving here then he calls with hands that you might think he would fold.
Time Link to 00:25:26
I disgree with your opinion that tom has to bluff this river with his specific hand because its pretty much the weakest hand he can get to this river with based on game theory. I think it would be suicidal to bluff this specific river based on the action. Your range looks like ax, kx, on this river and he can't really rep many combos of hands that beat ax and I think the majority of your turn calling range is ax and kx and your never folding ax on that river for a standard bet. Of course if he knew you were taking this line with qq which means you would be taking this same line with 88-qq versus his 3bet calling range on this flop and turn its a much better bluff, but he can't expect you to bet all combos of 88-qq on this flop. and I think your even though 88-qq is the same hand, your more inclined to fold 88-tt on the turn to a bet than qq even though its the same hand versus his range. I think your obviously betting 88-99 more than tt-qq. Based on his preflop calling range you've assigned him he has so many combos of 1 card gutters on this board which is why you bet for value with qq I'm assuming. As played your range is strongly weighted toward hands that aren't folding, with your actually hand being the at the bottom of your range as played, therefore his river bluffing frequency should be a mixed strategy with alot of the bluff range removed and not a pure one of bluffing the very bottom of his river range. I don't know if you agree with this or not.
I disgree with your opinion that tom has to bluff this river with his specific hand because its pretty much the weakest hand he can get to this river with based on game theory. I think it would be suicidal to bluff this specific river based on the action. Your range looks like ax, kx, on this river and he can't really rep many combos of hands that beat ax and I think the majority of your turn calling range is ax and kx and your never folding ax on that river for a standard bet. Of course if he knew you were taking this line with qq which means you would be taking this same line with 88-qq versus his 3bet calling range on this flop and turn its a much better bluff, but he can't expect you to bet all combos of 88-qq on this flop. and I think your even though 88-qq is the same hand, your more inclined to fold 88-tt on the turn to a bet than qq even though its the same hand versus his range. I think your obviously betting 88-99 more than tt-qq. Based on his preflop calling range you've assigned him he has so many combos of 1 card gutters on this board which is why you bet for value with qq I'm assuming. As played your range is strongly weighted toward hands that aren't folding, with your actually hand being the at the bottom of your range as played, therefore his river bluffing frequency should be a mixed strategy with alot of the bluff range removed and not a pure one of bluffing the very bottom of his river range. I don't know if you agree with this or not.
I think he definitely should bluff his hand on this river, I will frequently fold Kx, which is a reasonable % of my range.
With what types of hands would opponent want to take a free card here? He raised preflop from SB, and the flop was QJ9 monotone. If it had been like Q72 monotone, should he then tend to cbet more often?
I was thinking that monotone flops are good flops for bluffing, and also that you need to protect your hand on monotone flops as well. Thus, it is almost like you do need to cbet them most of the time. But given what you said in the video, I think I might be looking at this incorrectly.
Stuff like Jx? 9x w/ club? If he decides to take a freebie w/ something like 7c6x it hurts me a lot more on this board than it would on a non fd board. With all that said in 2012 I probably c/c my hand on the flop.
I think checking the river here might be an interesting move to extract the most value from his hands, a lot of which are most likely missed draws that can't call but might bluff, and if he has a strong hand like a flush he bets anyway right? What do you think?
He doesnt have too many missed draws that also have no SD value, so I don't really agree with that.
Vs a flush my line is probably not best though.
I think he has clubs / pocket 4's- 8's / pure overs that turn a gutshot (maybe he raises those though OTT or shoves w/ them reading your small bet as weakness?) Would he ever fold a bad 9? not sure on that one.
My river bet is dumb because he can have 9x that is better than mine, or Tx. He rarely would c/r some medium value hand that is worse than mine on the flop.
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