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Headhunter: Episode One

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Headhunter: Episode One by WiltOnTilt, FoxwoodsFiend

FoxwoodsFiend battles WiltOnTilt in this part 1 of 2 heads up sessions at $10/20 NLHE.

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FoxwoodsFiend presents four 2-part high stakes HU matches against unique, thinking opponents, teaching us the hows and whys of changing our strategies and illustrating why we need to challenge ourselves to get better.

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wiltontilt fwf foxwoodsfiend hunl huhu no limit holdem $10/20 $2000 nl headhunter

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 47 minutes long
  • Posted about 3 years ago

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FoxwoodsFiend

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345 posts
Joined 10/2007

+1, I've already watched it twice today, and will probably re-watch the entire series when it is finished.




I was also a little confused about this. I've thought about this for awhile and am still unable to understand the situation completely. I think this may be a big flaw in my thought process.

Assuming my opponent isn't 3-betting a large amount, yet has high-ish VPIP, I usually tighten up a bit and continue 3x-ing. If his VPIP is low, I tend to start minraising to get him to play more hands out of position/take him out of his comfort zone. In all honestly I never really consider him folding too much or the bluff price/worry about him calling a more profitable range if he is folding too much.

Also, how big of a difference does the stake (or rather the skill level) of the opponent make in the decision to minraise or 3x?

I'm fairly new to HU and still playing 50NL, so I apologize if this is all incredibly basic. I was just hoping you could expand more on minraising vs 3x-ing.


I'm really looking forward to future episodes.



There are a lot of factors that go into deciding whether or not to 3x or minraise. But a very very important one of those is how much of an immediate profit you can show with the raise sizes. If someone plays 38% against a 3x and 40% against a minraise, you should just about always minraise. That immediate profit you're gaining is worth way more than abstract ideas of game flow and comfort zones. If you find you're not making much $ either wya in a vacuum and you're getting 3bet a lot but not a shit-ton, you should minraise. If you're getting 3bet a shit-ton, you should 3x so you can make more money w/4bets (jamming or to 23 BB, depending on how he reacts to 4bets).

And, of course, you can mix up minraising and 3xing and see how your opponent adjusts to the new strategy

Posted almost 3 years ago

goose669

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Time Link to 00:17:36

with the q-6 hand @ 17 mins 36 secs, what are your reasons for not cbetting?
or do you think q high has show down?

Posted almost 3 years ago

FoxwoodsFiend

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with the q-6 hand @ 17 mins 36 secs, what are your reasons for not cbetting?
or do you think q high has show down?



NOt relaly, but the hands it loses to mostly don't fold the flop

Posted almost 3 years ago

Slowjoe

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Hmm...I'm not sure I trust that I'll have a good eye for knowing what specific issues people would be particularly interested in. Don't want to do a powerpoint about 4 or 5 things that people already feel comfortable about while neglecting the stuff they actually want to hear about: I think just talking about everything that comes up and trusting the viewer to rewind/revisit parts that they need to think about is best



I'm just visualising a slide that lists any conscious strategy adjustments you make for a player (with that effect that bullet points are hidden until the relevant point.) It might make an appearance for 60 seconds at the beginning of the second vid on a match. It would also allow the second vid to be easier to catch up on (a bit like "last week on 24..." on TV).

I could also imagine a recap where you show the slide again, and perhaps compare the current strategy slide with the WiltonTilt strategy slide. I think that kind of presentation would work well for me. I sometimes find that videos are little bit "stream of consciousness".

OTOH, it's more work. It's an unusual format, it's harder to produce, it costs time and I can't imagine that these videos are easy to do as it is.

Twas merely a suggestion, and this is merely to clarify the suggestion.

Posted almost 3 years ago

zugzwangg

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I think it would be very nice to see WoT holecards as well blended into the video like the other HU matches.

it may skew the analysis and hey poker is an one man game! but can really make your analysis stand out too when we actually get to see his cards and we get more analysis on his play too!

Posted almost 3 years ago

Impact

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I think it would be very nice to see WoT holecards as well blended into the video like the other HU matches.

it may skew the analysis and hey poker is an one man game! but can really make your analysis stand out too when we actually get to see his cards and we get more analysis on his play too!



I honestly HATE that. I think it makes the viewer biased, at least on some level. It's like when I analyze my own hand histories: I try to look at HHs from awhile ago so I don't remember what my opponent had, etc. I think showing the opponents holecards in a video seriously almosts ruins the entire thing.

Btw, great video.

Posted almost 3 years ago

goldseraph

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I honestly HATE that. I think it makes the viewer biased, at least on some level. It's like when I analyze my own hand histories: I try to look at HHs from awhile ago so I don't remember what my opponent had, etc. I think showing the opponents holecards in a video seriously almosts ruins the entire thing.

Btw, great video.



You could produce it so that the commentator doesn't see the hole cards while commenting, but they would be added in later for the viewer.

Posted almost 3 years ago

zugzwangg

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I like it either way! makes me want the next weeks one to have WoT whole card's up even if it has been made/commented by FwF!

Posted almost 3 years ago

Impact

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You could produce it so that the commentator doesn't see the hole cards while commenting, but they would be added in later for the viewer.




I would still prefer no opponent hole cards at all, although I realize I might be in the minority on this one. When watching videos, a lot of value I get out of them is by putting myself in the same situation and asking myself what I would do in similar spots. This makes things.."stick" you could say. With the hole cards exposed it's harder to do this (not impossible obviously but the hole cards don't help). Plus it's just harder to focus on what is going on with the instructor and his comments because I find myself looking at opponent's hole cards and thinking about his line etc. Also, by having opponent's cards exposed, we see how he has been playing more so than the instructor did at the time. So for instance, if we saw that villain has been 4betting a lot but it has always been with a good hand and instructor has folded every time so far, we might be biased if instructor jams over the next 4bet light (basically we'll have a better read on villain than we should).

The important part of a video is the instructor's commentary. The good ones should be talking about their opponents' ranges and that is all that matters, which really makes the opponent's hole cards irrelevant IMO, and actually harmful in terms of the video's quality.

Posted almost 3 years ago

ktpyro81

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Time Link to 00:01:48

With KQ in a 3-bet pot pre, you bet $160 into a $400 pot on the flop. How often would you do that with this flop texture? And are you betting $160 with 100% of your 3-betting range?

Posted almost 3 years ago

bosoxx34

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Time Link to 00:23:51

On the right table if the 9h rolls off on the turn and he bets $500, what are you doing?

Awesome video.

Posted almost 3 years ago

lewkiz

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This is probably in the "it depends" category but:

You are talking about the 38% limit where you don't worry about adjusting your standard open pre-flop because it will be +EV.

So when you have the BB do you try to play more than 38% or do you just accept that you are OOP and you are "supposed" to lose money from that position? (Hope the question made sense Smile

Posted almost 3 years ago

FoxwoodsFiend

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This is probably in the "it depends" category but:

You are talking about the 38% limit where you don't worry about adjusting your standard open pre-flop because it will be +EV.

So when you have the BB do you try to play more than 38% or do you just accept that you are OOP and you are "supposed" to lose money from that position? (Hope the question made sense Smile



you were right: it depends. ideally, you wouldn't be getting exploited but some people play too well in position post-flop for you to do much about the fact that they have the button

Posted almost 3 years ago

Juan_C

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Around minute 43 you comment about your play, saying that you "should take more aggressive lines in single raised pots, because WiltonTilt was betting a lot, cb roughly 60%, barreling quite often, and I wasn't doing much to slow him down", and that you should do more ch-raising and slowplaying on the flop.
Could you elaborate on why?
Was it because cb 60% is too much and therefore a leak? but if that is the case shouldn't we want to encourage our opponent to keep doing it?
or was it because cb 60% is optimal and we want our opponent to stop it?

Also, you are actually cb more, around 68% (64 and 73), does that means that WiltonTilt is doing a worse job on this than you?
what should he be doing about this? (your cb 68%) and why?

Great video by the way.
Thanks.

Posted over 2 years ago

GDF BnnaFish

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Time Link to 00:09:50

What hand will u call vs river bet? U'll 3bet AJ, maybe even AT; 3bet sets and dopers on turn. So there is no hand at all that u will call. I think u have to make crying call with at list AT, A9.

Posted over 1 year ago




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