KRANTZ and WiltOnTilt close another season of Pr1nnyraiding. In this episode they review the play of both WiltOnTilt and KRANTZ in two separate heads up matches.
KRANTZ and WiltOnTilt are back as we do some more Pr1nnyraiding. This season we move up to the midstakes of HU NLHE and take on a whole new identity of aggression and dominance.
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I was Krantz' opponent.
I also made a video and it was pretty cool to watch side by side. We had a lot of similar thoughts on situations and I was glad to hear his and WoT's insight.
I def. agree I should have A) stopped opening 100% buttons B) called more 3bets; or C) started 4 bet bluffing earlier in the match.
I prob. should have gone with option A > B > C cause going into the match I did not want to get in pre flop wars w/ him.
Personally I think the TT vs JJ hand in futher reflection is really standard (especially against Krantz, who I know gets crazier late in vids ) but I was slightly annoyed with myself cause I went against my strat of not 4 betting him.
Obviously if I don't 4bet air then I may not get him to play back at me as often when I pick up big hands and do 4bet, but I wasn't really worried about that in this match...once we got to the end though I decided to stop being a puss and the hands played as they did.
I thought the A9 hand was really interesting as well. I do think my flop range is narrow however I would 3bet small just cause that's pretty much how I always play 3bet pots. Granted this may not be good against you, or as I get deeper, as it very well may increase your floats etc., but once I got to the turn I was praying you'd check/ship and then got really confused when you c/r min. IMO I'm peeling there getting that price with any pair + draw I have cause I'm getting such a ridic price and your line is just really really odd. I do like it for the times I spaz shove, but given that I think c/r min is normally such a strong line from a weak player, and you're the exact opposite of that I was really befuddled by it and decided to go into a call/call mode.
I almost checked river just to see what you had but then figured I'd get to see anyways once the vid was released / after the sesh.
On the 89xQ board where I c/r your 64s delayed Cbet I had KT. I think that was pretty standard, given I assume you cbet all the big straight draws like JT QJ QT J7 since it's a draw you wanna build a pot with. Once you bet the turn I put you on A) Qx (given you were opening 100% buttons you def could just have a naked Q that picked up top pair and bet, and my line looks strong and I should get you off that hand by the river) that wouldn't bet flop but would bet/call turn and then fold to a bet which was gonna be my line if you called, or a delayed cbet and I decided to just c/r to get you off whatever that happened to be.
I gotta run to class but can post thoughts on some other hands, or my actual hand if asked.
GG and it was fun.
Krantz, just wondering, you made the comment that there were some attributes that you would not have time to cover in this series, have you thought out exactly what those are? It might be interesting to come up with counters of our own, something to do until Pr1nnyraiding S3
Oh yea, and the hand I had 8s8x vs your AK my thought process was this:
I had been pretty nitty OOP at this point and hadn't flatted often, so once I c/c flop you're either gonna shut down with your air or bet turn and I'm just gonna fold. Knowing this, and knowing that you are tough OOP, I thought best thing to do on that turn (which admittingly isn't necc. a great card for you to barrel, however it was still early in match and I wasn't positive of your dbl barrel freq) I thought turning my hand into a bluff and bombing turn and river was my best plan of action.
I would lead turn with QT AT KJ and any floosh simply cause I do think it gets checked back a lot and since I think those hands are in my range I felt the best way for me to get you to fold an Ax or Qx by the river was to lead/lead.
Once that river came though I decided to give up cause it makes you the nut two pair, a straight which you won't ever fold, and then when I do bet I think it polarizes me to a flush which I just won't have a ton and then maybe even KJ (cause I'm prob not value betting AT or QT ever on this riv) thus for me to bet turn/riv when that K comes I basically have to have KJ or a flush.
So I decided to just check/fold. Turns out you prob woulda called any river so I ran situationally lucky there and I don't think you thought it was a great play but I may as well explain what I was thinking in the moment.
Also to say if you have like JT or QJ you prob are calling turn and then when I bet river you're going to have a tougher time calling down then with an unimproved AK which is probably a hand you're calling with a very high % of the time esp. early in the match.
Ah, I'm rewatching our part and the hand where you have AK and 3bet I actually had AQ and opted not to 4bet since we hadn't started that yet...I was pretty happy with the floop and the tuuurn once you shoved river though I said in "my video" to myself...'luckily I don't have enough time bank to make a bad call, so I'm gonna make a good fold. 20 more seconds and I'd make this bad call'. Haha.
I do like how you played it though. I'm never really folding a King in this spot (although could find one perhaps to a shove, but idk trying to reflect back in the moment. The only Kings in my range are like KQ and KJ, KTs so meh), and I think calling two with AQ is ok...
Do you think calling two with AQ is fine? Considering this was the first time I defended to a three bet and you double barrel I guess there 'should' be less bluffs in your range since you obviously notice I haven't been defending much; but in the same token I think that could also increase your double barreling in case you think I'm weak and you can get me off 77 or whatever.
Thoughts? TBH I woulda been close to calling certain bet sizes on the river, but probably woulda opted to fold cause I would have decided that I didn't think you'd try and tripple barrel me for the above reasons (first defense, my perceived image, etc)
Also krantz it seemed like you were somewhat tilting slightly after that A9 hand. Not like serious tilt or anything for sure, but there was a triple barrel hand I remember where you were very "meh" on your play.
Also, in the A9 hand. You snap checked the turn after calling the flop. Was this timing intentional? Seems like an indication you're likely to be slightly weaker in that spot/a bit of a timing tell. more of an fyi, unless you have some reasoning for it.
the video was fantastic. don't get me wrong.