hurricane562
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Well if he is calling your cbet with that wide a range, and given the naturally aggression of him Id be really tempted to call and call any river.
I dont think floating here with Ahi, and calling with some pairs (like 33/44/55) is a great play by him. If thats the case it means his range on the turn is wide and weak which means (especially if he is aggro) he is going to be c/r the turn as a bluff a LOT more than for value!
If he is good he may start adjusting his range on the turn to include hands like KQ,QJ, since you might barrel more as a bluff and lighter for value too.
Eitehr case we beat both and I really would not fold turn nor any river.
Obviously river becomes closer if he can c/c c/r some FD but I dont think thats much of an issue so I would calldown here.
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His sizing on the turn c/r + that river card make this a pretty good spot to fold imo. Some guys will never take this line for value tho as it looks really strong, so this decision is often based upon what level you believe your opponent is on. Other more mediocre players will never bluff when taking this line.
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His sizing on the turn c/r + that river card make this a pretty good spot to fold imo. Some guys will never take this line for value tho as it looks really strong, so this decision is often based upon what level you believe your opponent is on. Other more mediocre players will never bluff when taking this line.
Gman.
Now you know his range.
What are your adjustments when playing hands like:
a)QQ,45
b)A2ss T9dd
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If villain wanted to pretend his J was a
he should have CR the flop, which would be hard to advocate w/o gameflow. I also kinda don't like the Preflop minraise just because it becomes easy to rep 2pr vs. cbets.
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W/ the info I had, I'd call/call QQ and 45, Call/fold A2ss unimproved and just fold the turn w/ T9dd.
Noobish questions but want to pick your brain 
So there are no hands you are shoving turn? Is that because you think he may bluff the river if he misses his draw enough of the time?
Why are you folding the turn with T9dd but not A2ss? Whats the worse draw you are calling with then and why?
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Noobish questions but want to pick your brain 
So there are no hands you are shoving turn? Is that because you think he may bluff the river if he misses his draw enough of the time?
Why are you folding the turn with T9dd but not A2ss? Whats the worse draw you are calling with then and why?
In this situation, no. When we have QQQ we have the deck crushed and it's more likely he's bluffing, so I think flatting is better. And yes, I think he will bluff the river a decent amount when he whiffs.
I'd call w/ A2ss because a) we have more outs b) we have SD value c) we have the nut draw and occasionally can stack smaller spades. I wouldn't fold a gutter and a FD on the turn either.
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