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sweetjazz3

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Joined 02/2007

Yeah, so obviously this hand is really stupid and why I am starting to hate O8, but I also realize that my river play in the game is often poor. Is this a clear river check-fold?

There's basically no way I can win anymore unless my opponent is making a ridiculously stupid bluff into four others, so it seems that the 1-more-bet-in-a-huge-pot mentality doesn't really apply in O8 in the same way it does in LHE.

Since I am new to the game, I hate folding getting such good pot odds, but I guess the point is that this is a game where your hand reading is going to be a lot more accurate. Provided you have been playing with CO for a little bit and he seems typical straightforward, folding here seems best. Does that extend to folding this if CO is a complete unknown?

Basically, is it reasonable to assume that nobody is dense enough to bet AT32 or Khxhxx for value here and that nobody is sophisticated enough to bet A2xx as a bluff in the hope that nobody had a set on the flop (or AKT2) and that the player with the nut flush will have the sense to fold?

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 10 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is UTG with 2 Heart 4 Heart A Heart 7 Club
Hero calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, BTN raises, SB calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls

Flop: (11 SB) 6 Heart T Heart 8 Heart (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, CO calls, BTN calls, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, BTN calls, SB calls

Turn: (13 BB) K Diamond (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, BTN calls, SB calls

River: (18 BB) T Diamond (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, CO bets, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls

Posted over 4 years ago

ANGRY BORIS

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182 posts
Joined 07/2008

Maybe if it was your last 4 dollars in your account i could maybe fold, but im sure that calling here is the right play. that being said no one ever bluffs in O/8.... well good players never bluff into 4 people. and if i read it right you are getting 18 to 1.. there is more than a 5 percent chance he is v-beting k high flush or miss clicked or his wife decided to jump on and play.

Posted over 4 years ago

anewfuture

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Joined 09/2008

this is a bluff often enough to justify calling, while it doesnt happen a lot people will make desperation bluffs on the river, especially when the low missed.

you absolutely have to pay this off, you cant put all those bets in only to fold or else prepare to get totally ran over at even the 2/4 level, you will open yourself to being bluffed more and forcing you into tougher decisions.

sure its not pretty, sure it looks like your beat, but this is a busted low draw often enough..call

Posted over 4 years ago

Joe Tall

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6688 posts
Joined 11/2006

Welcome to the world of O8.

You played it fine.

Posted over 4 years ago




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