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Saddle Up: Episode Four

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Saddle Up: Episode Four by Joe Tall

Joe Tall rides again. This week Joe covers Stud Hi/Lo. Learn to scoop the pot and dodge bullets.

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Saddle Up brings you an all around look at HORSE by our very own cowboy Joe Tall. Throughout the series he will cover topics such as game transition and hand ranges, all the while listening to viewer suggestions as to what topics he should focus on.

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  • Game: mixed
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 57 minutes long
  • Posted over 4 years ago

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Joe Tall

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Sorry for the delay guys. It was 100% me. I just fcked up the video I uploaded.

Oh, what do you think of my new skin?

-JT

Posted over 4 years ago

C17H21NO4

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good video again joe! thanks!

one question at the 9KA flush hand. on 4th you have A8 showing and an A6s and a loose player with 4T behind you and bet flat out. is checking with the intention to c/r the field (or maybe calling heads up) too tricky here?

Posted over 4 years ago

Joe Tall

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good video again joe! thanks!

one question at the 9KA flush hand. on 4th you have A8 showing and an A6s and a loose player with 4T behind you and bet flat out. is checking with the intention to c/r the field (or maybe calling heads up) too tricky here?



The player behind is folding. If he is not folding that major brick vs our boards, he is calling 132 bets. You take the risk on the A6s that he paired and will check through So bet/3-bet. Now, if there was a 3rd opponent with some other mediocre showing, I highly recommend a c/r, yes.

Posted over 4 years ago

Iteopepe88

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The 3rd and 4th hand was at the WSOPE. I try to put the deatils to an online hand history format, so you can put that in to the hand history replayer. Unfortunetaly i made same mistakes in the 2nd hand, and i couldn't find what was wrong it, but i try the 1st hand, and the hand history replayer could "read" it.

When i had (A6)-A against Phil i don't like my bet on 4th street. I am not that big of a favourite (53-47% whether he has a pair or 4 to a low (with no straight potential) and i am giving away the strength of my hand. The rest of the hand played itself.
The river action was:
I checked blind.
He bet blind.
I called blind.
I think against Ivey this is correct...

To the 2c-3c-6c hand:
I think i have to jam 4th street.
The calling station 2 had a x-x-7-K board and he called all the 5bets!
The calling station 1 was very short on chips and i didn't put him on rolled up...He would definetely jam one pair of queens only (on 3rd and 4th street) also, just because he has the biggest door card, and the biggest pair possible.

On 4th street i am a big favoruite with my 2c-3c-6c-3s
I have 40%
a Q-Q-K-7 has 31%
and a hand like (2-3)-5-K has 28%

Why is this not a jam?

If the guy happens to have rolled up queens...well...then i am behind (25% for me, 52% for QQQ and 21% for the other guy). But he will more often have only one pair of queens...He was short and desperate...We tried to knock out the "calling station" 1 with the 5-K board, but i'am also happy if he calls the 5bets.

And yeah, there was a 5 bet cap at the WSOPE.
On the end i mistype his hand. He started with QQx and hit runner-runner flush to beat my two pair.

Posted over 4 years ago

urjjbb

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Joe,

Thanks for the video, I'm learning Stud8 and the game really rocks!

On the video, approximately 5 min, you mention that you should learn and get some experience on Stud Hi prior to jumping on Stud 8, can you expand a little on why you think that?

I'm asking because the games seem to have some really different dynamics and I've been focusing only on Stud8.

Regards,
Jabbur

Posted over 4 years ago

ElliottWave

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Hi Joe,
Very nice series. I have bankroll question. What would be your bankroll requirements for 3/6, 5/10 and 8/16 HORSE on FTP. I'm not clueless in the game, most of my bankroll comes form playing low limit HORSE, especially after introducing 6max tables I built it pretty quick. At the moment I play 3/6 regularly with good results, but 5/10 and 8/16 games are often good. Imo, 300BB is enough for 3/6. What about 5/10 and 8/16?

Posted over 4 years ago

Joe Tall

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On the video, approximately 5 min, you mention that you should learn and get some experience on Stud Hi prior to jumping on Stud 8, can you expand a little on why you think that?

I'm asking because the games seem to have some really different dynamics and I've been focusing only on Stud8.

Regards,
Jabbur



Its easier to gain the position changing experience when not having to explore the dynamic of split pots. It will strengthen your game in the long run for sure (leaning Stud Hi first).

Posted over 4 years ago

Joe Tall

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Hi Joe,
Very nice series. I have bankroll question. What would be your bankroll requirements for 3/6, 5/10 and 8/16 HORSE on FTP. I'm not clueless in the game, most of my bankroll comes form playing low limit HORSE, especially after introducing 6max tables I built it pretty quick. At the moment I play 3/6 regularly with good results, but 5/10 and 8/16 games are often good. Imo, 300BB is enough for 3/6. What about 5/10 and 8/16?



If you study hard and work on it, 300 would be fine yes.

Posted over 4 years ago

jjd323

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Time Link to 00:21:08

he can't have pocket kings.... you folded two of them

Posted over 2 years ago

rubbishaka80

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Time Link to 00:29:17

This opponent is so aggressive he steals with a limp Smile

Posted over 2 years ago




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