SUIT THAT ACE!
BigBadBabar and yeahthatsme review a 4-tabling session of Babar's play at some $10 and $20 PLO8 tables.
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SUIT THAT ACE!
EDIT: something funky with the timestamps here. Should point to 34 minutes.
Loved the CR here at first (Would Love To Hear More About CR Spots In Split Pot Games) but does he really fold enough splits (or bluff at the pot), compared to times when you bet and scoop (or 3/4) against a 5 or an emergency low he backed into?
In limit, a CR is often a good way to get more money in against a good hand, but from what I've learned about big bet games, that's not always the case (as villain is the one who gets to set the price he's willing to pay).
Also, you don't have nut-nut here so what's the plan if he re-pops it?
i'm not making this play to get him to fold a wheel - i'm making it for value. i'm never getting scooped, and am almost never getting 3/4thd, whereas i am scooping him some and 3/4ing him some. given how aggro he is on the river (bets when checked to - exploitative play based on stats/read) this is the best way i can jam a lot of money into the pot on the river. if he bet/folds a bluff, great. if he decided to fold a wheel that's even better although i really doubt that that's what happened here.
if he pops it i would jam
In limit, a CR is often a good way to get more money in against a good hand, but from what I've learned about big bet games, that's not always the case (as villain is the one who gets to set the price he's willing to pay).
well i think it's a good way to get more money in against a good hand probably in all forms/situations of poker where the opponent is likely to bet. in lhe good players value bet pretty well so you can count on getting the cr in vs them, and vs bad players it depends. in plo8 from what i have experienced it depends on the player also - here i had a read. some are very passive on this river and would only bet a wheel+. but most would bet most trips here. many plo8 players' street by street aggression goes like 1, 1, 4. many plo8 players who had already boated up by the turn would have popped the turn, so i can reduce boat combos in his range
well i think it's a good way to get more money in against a good hand probably in all forms/situations of poker where the opponent is likely to bet.
Not necessarily... I'm certainly no big bet expert but what I'm thinking here is that you let villain decide the price he pays when he bet/folds. Like here he bet/folded .5 pot but could have paid a .75 pot bet. He could have bet only .33 pot. If this was limit he's betting the same amount he would call.
Then there's the fact that in limit, if villain had a value hand or even a now-likely-quartered hand, he'll bet and call anyway. In PL, there's less guarantee he'll call even when he made a value bet. Of course the reward is bigger in PL the times he bet/calls.
I have no idea whether the CR was good or not. You went with a read and it's totally cool. With my limit background I was first like "whooa that's a sweet CR" but there are more things to put in the equation in PL than just his bet-when-checked-to. Hopefully a big bet expert chimes in.
i'm not making this play to get him to fold a wheel - i'm making it for value.
On this paired board he's unlikely to hold a good second best hands to pay you off... I don't think villain is going to have many hands you'll get $11 worth of value out off in a $4.18 pot. A65x, maybe with diamonds to go with, for a bluff catcher?
The more I think about it, the more I'm beginning to believe you bluffed him off a split of some sort
64 with diamonds (like 6432), A33 with diamonds?
Table 1: Your target min-opens from SB, you have JT9 + a napkin... isn't that enough to take a peek at the flop? If not, make that 5 a ??? and it's good to go?
seven thru ace
BBB gave some great responses. Out of town at the moment but will have an opportunity tomorrow to jump in as well.
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