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SriSyadasti

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Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 7 players - View hand 1855299
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SB: $11.67
BB: $15.55
UTG: $20.45
UTG+1: $51.04
MP: $25.00
Hero (CO): $30.93
BTN: $27.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A Diamond 3 Heart 6 Club 5 Heart
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, BTN raises to $1.50, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.85) Q Spade 4 Diamond 7 Heart (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.25, Hero raises to $29.43 all in, BTN folds


Did I make the right play here? It seemed a good spot for a big semi-bluff but was my hand actually strong enough to bet for value? Or weak enough that I over committed too badly? I feel like most of the time I'm playing for half the pot and getting into tricky spots on the turn and river. What do you guys think?

Posted 9 months ago

HJD

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seems reasonable if he'll fold A2 and some bit pairs. there is alot of $ in there too! you should try to provide some reads on your opponents also though, as that is usually the main criteria needed to analyse a hand.

Posted 9 months ago

SriSyadasti

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His VPP was 26%, PFR only 5% and he's put out the continuation bet 9 out of ten times when he's raised.

Posted 9 months ago

yeahthatsme

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I'd never over-limp this in the CO to start, but I like the check-shove after the fact. It's hard to stack of bare A2's and will fold all bare A3's and any low that comes you either make the straight or often counterfeit their low so in really fair shape equity wise when called.

Also recommend adding L, PL, or NL in post titles.

Posted 9 months ago

nervy

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Btw BTN overbet the flop a little bit. Any reads on what he might be doing this with? Anyway worth noting if called.

Posted 9 months ago

BigBadBabar

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i'd pot it pre and i like the flop jam

Posted 9 months ago

BigBadBabar

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agree it's plo8 and not o8

welcome to the forum!

Posted 9 months ago

yeahthatsme

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It's not PL, it's the best variant, NL!

Posted 9 months ago

BigBadBabar

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SriSyadasti

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nervy- I'd missed the overbet. Hadn't noticed any correlation with this guy between bet size and strength, assuming this was the first hand you were in with someone and they made this kind of play would you be more or less likely to put them on a strong two-way hand?

yeahthatsme- What factors would influence you to fold this hand pre? When playing non-A2 hands how does low card value compare with things like suitedness and high cards? Would you call a raise in position from a 12% PFR player with A256 off-suit? Your comment's got me thinking I might be playing too many hands, my VPP tends to average around 20% full ring, might it be better if it lower?

Cheers for the input, I've been playing hi-lo for a few months but still feeling like my game is mostly grey area, any help closing it down is much appreciated.

Posted 9 months ago

HJD

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i dont think YTM means he'd fold this pre, and rather would isolate the 2 weak limping ranges. im sure he'll correct me if im wrong though.

Posted 9 months ago

yeahthatsme

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nervy- I'd missed the overbet. Hadn't noticed any correlation with this guy between bet size and strength, assuming this was the first hand you were in with someone and they made this kind of play would you be more or less likely to put them on a strong two-way hand?

yeahthatsme- What factors would influence you to fold this hand pre? When playing non-A2 hands how does low card value compare with things like suitedness and high cards? Would you call a raise in position from a 12% PFR player with A256 off-suit? Your comment's got me thinking I might be playing too many hands, my VPP tends to average around 20% full ring, might it be better if it lower?

Cheers for the input, I've been playing hi-lo for a few months but still feeling like my game is mostly grey area, any help closing it down is much appreciated.



Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, when I said not overlimping it's because I prefer raising. I wouldn't call an open shove of 100bbs+, that's one of the few times I'd fold it. A256ss has so much playability, especially in position, it's the type of hand I want to build pots with. Given the Ace not being suited, I prefer it heads up, but no question it's strong. Rainbow A256 is still quite strong. I'd absolutely call a raise from a 12% pfr player, I would from anyone.

As far as 20% vpip in FR, it by itself is fine, but all really depends on how you get to that number. If it's balanced from way lower in EP's to way higher in LP's, that's the ideal.

Non- A2 hands can have high equity and plenty of playability as well, A3WX is really powerful. It's just considerations of position and table dynamic that come into play for the majority.

Posted 9 months ago

SriSyadasti

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