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History is that villain seems to be tilting a bit, his been berating me in chat for about 5 mins from a hand where I bet a 1CD and he had a 3CD. Pretty sure this is correct by me anyway? (I am still noob so apologies if its obv)

Anyway the hand below I am pretty sure I miss thin value not betting the river as he calls with most 9's I think and I should bet/fold this

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 6 players - View hand 1821699
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is UTG with
Hand: A Q 8 7 2
Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls

First Draw: (5.5 SB) (2 players)
Hero draws 2, CO draws 1
Hand: A 8 7 5 2
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls

Second Draw: (3.75 BB) (2 players)
Hero draws 1, CO draws 1
Hand: 8 7 5 4 2
Hero bets, CO calls

Third Draw: (5.75 BB) (2 players)
Hero stands pat, CO draws 1
Hand: 8 7 5 4 2
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: 5.75 BB
Hero shows 8 7 5 4 2 (Lo: 8,7,5,4,2)
Hero wins 5.49 BB
(Rake: $0.26)

So this should be a thin value bet right?

Also my general question is these spots come up a lot where we have a pat hand which is ok but not great and they draw one. We get to the river and I feel like it's a choice between thin bet/fold or actually ch/f and if they check back we win pot a lot

So what's the thinest we would bet fold in this spot in a normal hand where villain is not tilting at us?
Also if we check a hand like this on the river (i.e. a Average 87 or a 9) I assume we check fold as villain is unlikely to bluff a Pat hand in this spot?

easy bet. as a rule bet all 8s here. dont fold always when u check they can be bluffing at a pat hand!

Yeah this hand is good enough to valuebet imo. Regarding check/folding pat hands oop on the river it depends on what you know about your opponents tendencies. I would probably never check/fold my 97s and probably fold most of my 98s or worse. But if your opponent bluffs rarely or frequently you obviously have to adjust, same thing goes for bet/calling with hands like this on the river. If you`ve never seen him bluffraise on the river vs a pat hand, then you should bet/fold this all day.

Snow are u bet folding those 8's though? Whats the best hand u would bet/f? Whats the thinest hand u would bet for value like a 97?

The times i have ch/called in these spots like with 9 they always seemed to have it fwiw. Though looks like i should be betting a 9 mainly

Psycho thx, tbh i have never seen a bluff raise in this spot so far (when i have called). So i need to be betting thinly more it seems for sure

Thx

The bet just goes in a lot better for you when youre the one betting. Also need to protect potential snows with thin valuebets, meaning i would bet any good 97 and better most of the time against sd-bound people. Which would be everyone.

Fold pre. (Assuming this is 6handed and the history just missed 3 folds behind the CO)

Fold pre. (Assuming this is 6handed and the history just missed 3 folds behind the CO)

Oh yeah this is a fold pre, never even considered commenting on that. 278 isn`t that good of a hand.

b/folding depends on villain exclusively! against unknown best hand i fold is 24578 i think but i may call 100% vs tilty bluffy villains and bet/fold everything but no6 to tags

thx guys appreciate the help already plugging a ton of leaks

One thing I'll add that I don't think other posters have mentioned. Villain only called and drew 1 predraw. This means he likely has a very rough 1-c draw (or is very passive) and we should be value betting more thinly on the river because villain is just more likely to show up with a weak made pat hand.

I'd also be more suspicious of a raise on the river because its tougher for him to make a strong hand if he starts with a weak 1-c draw predraw.

At these stakes I often see just calling and drawing one with 7543/7643/7653. Even (ugh) 7654 occasionally.

Basically I agree with Slide that his pre-draw play means he's likely to make a rough hand so you should be more inclined to value bet the river. But don't be shocked if he has a seven.

It's definitely a leak of mine that by the time I get to the river I forget/ignore what happened pre, so thanks Slide for pointing that out.

What if this were say 3 way on ther river in a 1:1at spot would we still bet 87?

The reason I asked is just watched a mentor video where a villain (who is a solid reg) checks back something like a 87542 3 way. Villain was pat on turn I believe, there was no comment on it in the vid

I will also ask in thread for that video

Thx again guys (love this tilting game )

What if this were say 3 way on ther river in a 1:1at spot would we still bet 87?

The reason I asked is just watched a mentor video where a villain (who is a solid reg) checks back something like a 87542 3 way. Villain was pat on turn I believe, there was no comment on it in the vid

I will also ask in thread for that video

Thx again guys (love this tilting game )

Not too easy without seeing the action, but 3ways i guess the risk of getting checkraised would be superior to valuebetting thinly? 87542 would be pretty thin, but theres definitely spots where i would valuebet it.

not thin, 97 is thin maybe here.