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danzasmack

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3 handed for a while. This guy has been quiet - only 3-bet 2x before this in 33 spots. 40/29 so far nothing crazy.

Folded to me in the sb I open ASpadeKClub5Club4Diamond - he 3-bets, I call.

Flop 7Club5Diamond3Spade

I c/c

Turn KDiamond

c/c? c/r? lead?

Anyone c/r the flop?

Posted about 1 year ago

BigBadBabar

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I like a turn c/r, since I think he's going to bet close to his entire range, and we have a strong value hand both ways. I don't think I love a flop c/r since often he's going to have A2xx and be freerolling us for half, and will probably just start jamming right away.

Posted about 1 year ago

grandmofftarkin

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Just out of curiosity/from a theory standpoint: you open in the sb in LHE when OOP? Didn't think that was kosher in LHE, so why here?

As for the flop, what do you think his 3b range is? pretty overpair heavy with some low cards? Do ya have enough equity there to raise? doesn't seem so off the top of my head.

I think I x/r the turn. You pull ahead of all the overpair hands right? Dunno about the equity if he's got a low right now, but maybe you scoop with an A or 2 river?

Edit: I'm an idiot, I was thinking about rz/4b OOP. Kinda disregard that part. I'm in the middle of finals and not sleeping/thinking.

Posted about 1 year ago

yeahthatsme

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I like a turn c/r, since I think he's going to bet close to his entire range, and we have a strong value hand both ways. I don't think I love a flop c/r since often he's going to have A2xx and be freerolling us for half, and will probably just start jamming right away.



Due to the second line of the quoted I'd rather bet/call than c/r OTT against this guy. He's c-betting his entire range, yes, but from the sounds of it his entire range in this spot is fairly narrow, which I'd rather NOT be jamming against on later streets. Want to get value instead of it going ck/ck for sure, but no need to valuetown yourself either.

Posted about 1 year ago

BigBadBabar

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yeah good point, if we think a lot of his range is a2 then a turn c/r is still not for value. donking lets 1-2 bets go in total which seems the right amount

Posted about 1 year ago

grandmofftarkin

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Due to the second line of the quoted I'd rather bet/call than c/r OTT against this guy. He's c-betting his entire range, yes, but from the sounds of it his entire range in this spot is fairly narrow, which I'd rather NOT be jamming against on later streets. Want to get value instead of it going ck/ck for sure, but no need to valuetown yourself either.


If villain just calls the turn, are there any rivers you aren't betting? What about a 4?

Posted about 1 year ago

AKQJ10

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Obviously it comes down to how much non-A2 is in his range, and how much of it he bets. We're only a 45-55 dog to exactly A2, so there doesn't have to be that much other stuff for us to want to jam.

Against A2,AA,KKWW,QQWW,JJWW, then we're a 2:1 favorite. That seems a bit optimistic. We're a 52-48 favorite against A2,AA, but a bigger dog against A2, AALL and an equally big dog to A2,AALL,AABB. Do we think he's 3betting all AA or just AA with 2 low or 2 bway?

Does he always 3bet even junky A2 pre?

If we do put him on a broader range, is he checking back the part of the range we want to be against? He's probably betting any AA, right? So XR gets us 2 bets against a range where we might be a slight favorite, but 3 bets the occasional times we're in bad shape (A2-set, A2K7, A24). BC gets us 1 bet when we're a favorite and 2 when we're a slight dog. Am i thinking about this the right way?

I think I x/r the turn. You pull ahead of all the overpair hands right? Dunno about the equity if he's got a low right now, but maybe you scoop with an A or 2 river?



A river ace doesn't help us against A2; it gives us a live 4 (7543A) vs a live 2 (7532A).

Posted about 1 year ago




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