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SilentBob

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Played this hand in a Stud8 session recently & felt totally lost as the hand progressed.
Thoughts on how to play the hand from 5th street & beyond ... at what points would your actions be different to the ones I ttook & why?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Stud Hi/Lo $0.05 Ante - 8 players - View hand 1528492
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3rd Street: (1.6 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx 3 Heart____Seat 1 brings in for $0.10
Seat 2: xx xx Q Spade____Seat 2 folds
Seat 3: xx xx 8 Spade____Seat 3 calls
Seat 4: xx xx 3 Spade____Seat 4 calls
Hero: J Heart J Diamond K Spade___Hero calls
Seat 6: xx xx T Diamond____Seat 6 folds
Seat 7: xx xx 6 Diamond____Seat 7 folds
Seat 8: xx xx J Spade____Seat 8 folds

4th Street: (3.2 SB) (4 players)
Seat 1: xx xx 3 Heart 7 Heart____Seat 1 calls
Seat 3: xx xx 8 Spade 6 Club____Seat 3 calls
Seat 4: xx xx 3 Spade 8 Heart____Seat 4 calls
Hero: J Heart J Diamond K Spade K Club___Hero bets

5th Street: (3.6 BB) (4 players)
Seat 1: xx xx 3 Heart 7 Heart K Diamond____Seat 1 calls____Seat 1 calls
Seat 3: xx xx 8 Spade 6 Club 4 Diamond____Seat 3 raises
Seat 4: xx xx 3 Spade 8 Heart T Heart____Seat 4 calls
Hero: J Heart J Diamond K Spade K Club A Diamond___Hero bets___Hero calls

6th Street: (11.6 BB) (4 players)
Seat 1: xx xx 3 Heart 7 Heart K Diamond 5 Diamond____Seat 1 bets
Seat 3: xx xx 8 Spade 6 Club 4 Diamond 7 Spade____Seat 3 calls
Seat 4: xx xx 3 Spade 8 Heart T Heart 8 Diamond____Seat 4 calls
Hero: J Heart J Diamond K Spade K Club A Diamond 4 Heart___Hero checks___Hero calls

7th Street: (15.6 BB) (4 players)
Seat 1: xx xx 3 Heart 7 Heart K Diamond 5 Diamond xx____Seat 1 bets
Seat 3: xx xx 8 Spade 6 Club 4 Diamond 7 Spade xx____Seat 3 calls
Seat 4: xx xx 3 Spade 8 Heart T Heart 8 Diamond xx____Seat 4 calls
Hero: J Heart J Diamond K Spade K Club A Diamond 4 Heart 9 Spade___Hero checks___Hero folds

Final Pot: 18.6 BB
Seat 1 shows 2 A 3 7 K 5 K (HI: a pair of Kings; LO: 7,5,3,2,A)
Seat 3 mucks 9 7 8 6 4 7 2
Seat 4 shows 6 2 3 8 T 8 T (HI: two pair, Tens and Eights)
Seat 4 wins 8.9 BB
Seat 1 wins 8.9 BB
(Rake: $0.40)

Posted over 1 year ago

Berserk03

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u play the hand fine except 7th street. seat doesnt have a straight by 6th straight, he would have raised, so u can easily have a better 2pair than him. seat 1 can have a very good low hand with a mediocre hi hand. given the pot odds, u have to call river. u'll lose most of the time, but u r getting abt 9 to 1 to win the high.

Posted over 1 year ago

Schweig

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You HAVE to call river.

3rd is a fold, high only hands play awfully multiway, but especially with the dead J.

Posted over 1 year ago

DeathDonkey

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Agree on fold 3rd, wtf on the rest OP? More action everywhere you have a great situation here they are all low and dead for high mostly. I'd be jamming more on 6th for sure and easy river call

Posted over 1 year ago

Joe Tall

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You HAVE to call river.

3rd is a fold, high only hands play awfully multiway, but especially with the dead J.



Yup.

Check this out

With the J dead
ProPokerTools Stud Hi/Lo Simulation
341,969 trials (Randomized)
dead cards: JSpade6DiamondTDiamondQSpade
JJK 15.64% (20,735 scoops, 86,251 wins hi, 6 ties hi, 0 wins lo, 0 ties lo)
LL8 21.60% (33,796 scoops, 86,890 wins hi, 48 ties hi, 31,469 wins lo, 210 ties lo)
LL3 21.99% (33,841 scoops, 76,997 wins hi, 44 ties hi, 47,968 wins lo, 375 ties lo)
**3 20.23% (24,115 scoops, 43,141 wins hi, 84 ties hi, 82,851 wins lo, 587 ties lo)
**6 20.54% (25,637 scoops, 48,545 wins hi, 108 ties hi, 77,562 wins lo, 468 ties lo)

Without the J dead:
ProPokerTools Stud Hi/Lo Simulation
351,502 trials (Randomized)
dead cards: 6DiamondTDiamondQSpade
JJK 19.66% (30,408 scoops, 107,760 wins hi, 21 ties hi, 0 wins lo, 0 ties lo)
LL8 20.70% (35,269 scoops, 83,017 wins hi, 43 ties hi, 31,256 wins lo, 171 ties lo)
LL3 20.83% (33,968 scoops, 73,351 wins hi, 35 ties hi, 46,612 wins lo, 320 ties lo)
**3 19.27% (24,204 scoops, 40,993 wins hi, 81 ties hi, 81,075 wins lo, 471 ties lo)
**6 19.56% (25,488 scoops, 46,241 wins hi, 100 ties hi, 76,225 wins lo, 362 ties lo)

they are reaching sims but for sure shows.

Posted over 1 year ago

Joe Tall

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Agree on fold 3rd, wtf on the rest OP? More action everywhere you have a great situation here they are all low and dead for high mostly. I'd be jamming more on 6th for sure and easy river call



Given the strongest board just called (and no one calls there with a straight), a raise on 6th should go in after the check. Makes no sense to call 6th then fold river here, yes.

Posted over 1 year ago

SilentBob

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OK, so it was a pretty horrible fold on the river ...

Didn't realise it was so bad to play on 3rd. At what point does a hand like (JJ)K (ie: high only w/biggish pair) become playable, if so bad multiway against low hands?

Either way methinks it might be time to watch (or re-watch) some videos soon ...

Posted over 1 year ago




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