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Splitting Peanuts: Episode Three

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Splitting Peanuts: Episode Three by danzasmack, BigBadBabar

Danzasmack reviews a 2-tabling session by BigBadBabar at $1/2 O8.

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Danzasmack coaches BigBadBabar as he ventures into the world of small stakes short handed o8!

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  • Game: mixed
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 55 minutes long
  • Posted about 3 years ago

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Noah.

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Thanks for the great series so far guys. It's been really helpful. I've been playing a lot more short handed o8 and it has helped a lot with my HORSE game also.

If it's possible could we have another session or part of a session where one of the tables starts out HU/3-handed again?

Posted about 3 years ago

danzasmack

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Thanks! Yeah we'll get some more HUHU into 3 handed content in the future. Happy you like it!

Posted about 3 years ago

BigBadBabar

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Yeah, I'm always trying to record HU/3handed. I've had some 5 or 10 hand sessions where I didn't get Camtasia up and running in time before the guy left or the table filled. From now on I'm going to have it open always, in preparation.

Posted about 3 years ago

Noah.

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BBB, would you be able to go into a bit more detail here in the thread about the timing tells you mentioned? I've been trying to better understand about ones that are more specific to o8.

Posted about 3 years ago

BigBadBabar

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well, I don't have a a ton of o/8 hands yet (maybe 10-15k in the last few months and that amount again lifetime previously (?) ). but in holdem, very often from a poor player when they bet, bet, then tank on the river and bet again, it's a very strong hand. like on a paired board they already had a boat, or on other boards they got there on the river. it seems so far like that's exacerbated in these lo8 games lately. i could certainly be overstating its merit, but i doubt a lot of these 66/3 guys are multitabling, and i doubt their boardreading skills diminish a ton for some reason on the river. so it seems like some kind of tricky/deceptive thing is a good explanation. i've also been doing a lot more one and two tabling so i think i'm more likely to see something like that as opposed to when i did four or six tables of lhe.

Posted about 3 years ago

BigBadBabar

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i would guess that that timing tell probably applies to many different games aside from o/8 and lhe? obviously we can ascribe differing amounts of significance to it and that'd be fine with me - i certainly don't think it's a huge deal. but it could be worthwhile and neat.

Posted about 3 years ago

HJD

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that tell is a TD one too, only they tank pat/snap bet Smile

Posted about 3 years ago

Noah.

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Time Link to 00:16:50

So what is the plan here for low rivers? Lead an A or a 3? Check call 6, 5 (and check fold 4, 2)?
And are we bet calling or bet folding the A or 3?

Posted about 3 years ago

BigBadBabar

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honestly I think what happened (both when I played it and then first when we were talking about it during the video) is that I didn't see that I had two pair here (on the turn). I just saw the ten and figured I was betting that as a bluff. Obviously with aces up it's not a bluff any more. So that was fun.

Posted about 3 years ago

BigBadBabar

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So what is the plan here for low rivers? Lead an A or a 3? Check call 6, 5 (and check fold 4, 2)?
And are we bet calling or bet folding the A or 3?



with the flush I wouldn't feel bad about betting any river that also gave me a low. If no low comes (I just watched this again today) I feel like checkfolding like Chuck recommended, if there's a bet and a call after I check, is good

Posted about 3 years ago

OnTheRail15

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Re: 24sAQ on AsJd6s board. Is there any merit to raising the flop to get the third player to fold a bigger flush draw. I know if I'm in player three's spot, when flop gets raised I'm loath to continue with something like A2x9sTs.

Posted over 2 years ago

BigBadBabar

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Re: 24sAQ on AsJd6s board. Is there any merit to raising the flop to get the third player to fold a bigger flush draw. I know if I'm in player three's spot, when flop gets raised I'm loath to continue with something like A2x9sTs.



i think in games where someone could fold a bigger flush draw it seems more plausible...in these merge 1/2 or 2/4 games no one is folding any better flush draw for two bets. it's been my experience that in 20/40 or 40/80 (or 30/60halfkill or whatever) live games people might fold on the east coast, but not on the west coast Smile i have only played westcoast o8 in vegas and LA though - how does the AZ game play?

i'd also be a little worried if the third player does fold that i'd sort of be isolating myself with all the draws (low, flush) against the current best made hand, but maybe cleaning up some flush or other random outs would more or less cancel that out. like i don't really have any nut draws or a super strong high hand so maybe it's not a great jamming situation.

Posted over 2 years ago

danzasmack

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@OTR,

If I'm raising the flop there it's mainly for just straight value. Like BBB said - in these games I don't expect anyone to be folding a hand like that. And honestly, with out specific hand that's really all we're targeting.

Maybe with a slightly worse low when we can be pushing out more stuff I would consider raising for those purposes but here I'm mostly consider a raise to get more money in the pot.

Posted over 2 years ago

danzasmack

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So what is the plan here for low rivers? Lead an A or a 3? Check call 6, 5 (and check fold 4, 2)?
And are we bet calling or bet folding the A or 3?



This is gross now that I look at it again but I really think our only line here is to bet and I THINK fold if there are 2 callers. I'm obviously not bet/folding HUHU.

The off-putting thing here while we assume it's just 2 better flush draws it's very likely there's a better low out there. That being said i can't see us check/folding a 2 way hand in that spot in a pot that big. I REALLY like leading an A, begrudgingly bet a 3, and c/f the rest of 'em.

Posted over 2 years ago




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