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Poker Video: Stud/Stud 8 by blumpster (High Stakes)

im curious. how would you compare the "softness" of mid to high stakes stud and stud8 to that of todays NL holdem games of similar size?

i like this video even tho i have never played this game before.
how important was it that you had two crappy draws for high and lo on sixth street when you made the value bet against the split 5s with 77 early on? seems like it would make that spot even better to go for thin value, especially since its a split pot game and you have a back up each way.

im curious. how would you compare the "softness" of mid to high stakes stud and stud8 to that of todays NL holdem games of similar size?

It's tough to say in general. From my experience, nlh games are getting a little tougher these days whereas stud games are staying about the same. The problem of course is that there are tons of holdem games going and not many stud games. But personally I like to have the ability to play many games and just in the one that looks the best, or switch games if I find myself losing interest. It's also great to be able to sit in a mixed game and know that most of your opponents will have significant leaks in at least one of the games (see Joe Tall's upcoming HORSE video to see this is true even at nose bleed stakes!).

i like this video even tho i have never played this game before.

thanks!

how important was it that you had two crappy draws for high and lo on sixth street when you made the value bet against the split 5s with 77 early on? seems like it would make that spot even better to go for thin value, especially since its a split pot game and you have a back up each way.

yes, having a hand that has a very good chance of winning either side with a moderate chance of scooping is a very favorable situation. in that hand, since he called 5th st with a 5KJ rainbow board, he should have a pair most of the time, since most of his other hands he would probably fold. split 5s makes the most sense (also he might have bet into me with a better pair in the hole), so i tentatively put him on that hand.

on 6th, in addition to picking up the draw, it's also relevant that my board now has 478 on it, so he is less likely to raise even if i am beat, and very likely to check to me on the river as well, giving me the opportunity to show down a modest pair of 7s or bet for value if i improve in either direction. honestly, against that player, i could even see making a thin value bet on the end.

on 6th, in addition to picking up the draw, it's also relevant that my board now has 478 on it, so he is less likely to raise even if i am beat, and very likely to check to me on the river as well, giving me the opportunity to show down a modest pair of 7s or bet for value if i improve in either direction.

yeah good point. i wasnt really thinking about how your board impacts his decision.

thanks for the response.

omg im not going to be an E fish after i watch this vid. one of the only 2 games i have no idea how to play well, no more free 30/60 gold for you

Great to see such a good stud/8 table play video. I hope you will contribute videos frequently although you said at the beginning this was a guest video.

How much do you take into account odds of some cards showing. You only mentioned it once when 2 flush cards showed. Lets say for example you have the hand 77(4) in late position. Noone has put any money except for the bring in who has a 3 showing. Would you raise this if no 7 or 4 were showing and fold if you saw a 7?

How much do you take into account odds of some cards showing. You only mentioned it once when 2 flush cards showed. Lets say for example you have the hand 77(4) in late position. Noone has put any money except for the bring in who has a 3 showing. Would you raise this if no 7 or 4 were showing and fold if you saw a 7?

Sounds about right. Certainly the cards that are out have a huge impact on the decision of whether (and how) to play a given hand. For a great introduction to "other games" (o8, stud, stud8, razz), you should definitely watch Joe Tall's "Donk to a Stud" series.

Great to see such a good stud/8 table play video. I hope you will contribute videos frequently although you said at the beginning this was a guest video.

This video was made before I became a Deucescracked coach. Now, I expect you will see more of these "ghost" videos from me in the near future.

Very good video! I'm trying to learn other non-holdem games, so I hope you are making more mid-high stakes videos thanks.

please make another vid.

second that...great video thx

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how about a valuebet here with 77?
he seems to me like the kind of player who will call with just 55...
or is it not a good idea because all his kickers were live, meaning you would more likely do it if say 2 kings and a jack were dead? (as he would imo c/c with a rivered 2pair)