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Poker Video: Misc/Other by DeathDonkey (High Stakes)

If I remember right I had some static at the beginning of the video but it clears up after a few min, so maybe that's it and hopefully later in the video its not an issue.

Time Link to 00:14:14

You talk about a possible river Ch/R. Seems like there aren't very many hands Enon can have that should value bet the river given your most likely hand is a very rough pat hand that can't pay off a river bet anyways, (I'm assuming you don't ever expect Enon to take this line as some sort of elaborate snow that would require you to bluff catch).

Couple preflop spots..

I) You fold 843xx in HJ on the left table, but then later open 842xx in the HJ and 872xx UTG. I'm not sure, but I think I would rather have 843xx than 872xx. Is the presence of the deuce really enough?

II) You fold 8743x UTG on the right table, but again open 872xx UTG. If your not opening 8743x, whats the worse 8ww3x draws are you opening?

You talk about a possible river Ch/R. Seems like there aren't very many hands Enon can have that should value bet the river given your most likely hand is a very rough pat hand that can't pay off a river bet anyways, (I'm assuming you don't ever expect Enon to take this line as some sort of elaborate snow that would require you to bluff catch).

Yes I think he could snow here, it would be a pretty good snow. I also think my image is that I would CR here kinda light and then c/c or c/f the river so he has incentive to just freeze and then value bet river. And continuing down that road of leveling I could then CR bluff river with some pat tens and jacks and crap so he'd have to consider paying off a weakish 8.

Couple preflop spots..

I) You fold 843xx in HJ on the left table, but then later open 842xx in the HJ and 872xx UTG. I'm not sure, but I think I would rather have 843xx than 872xx. Is the presence of the deuce really enough?

II) You fold 8743x UTG on the right table, but again open 872xx UTG. If your not opening 8743x, whats the worse 8ww3x draws are you opening?

Opening 872 sounds bad, if I did that I think its a mistake. I agree with you I'd rather have 843 but I only open 842 there.

I'd open 3458

Time Link to 00:10:04

Wtf did you just fold 5666 on the button?

Wtf did you just fold 5666 on the button?

Probably that hand is bad

Time Link to 00:35:24

Interesting point! Usually when I see somebody play a hand like this and show it down, I take a note of them patting rough early and adjust accordingly, but perhaps I should give them more credit for it.

Also, my initial preference was to check back the river rather than bluff bet it, but if we assume that he's leading into us with his stronger hands and folding jacks/tens/bad 9's to the bet, then I think the bluff is better. Also, with 5BB in the pot already, we gain more EV with a successful bluff than we lose from an unsuccessful one.

Now, if he's checkraising or check-calling his strong hands because he thinks we'll bet the river most of the time, it probably is better to check back and realize our equity.

Time Link to 00:24:10

Hey Chris,

is this a standard valuebet with 87432 against more straightforward players too, or is this just because of the high stakes thinking players who you assume would bluffcatch more? If so, whats the worst hand youre valuebettine here with?

Time Link to 00:29:00

Any point in raising the flop here trying to charge arbianight if missed? What about the same situation if we had 4 cards to a wheel?

Time Link to 00:51:29

You open fold a 346 from the cutoff for the 2nd time, but you raised 347 before. Does the 7 make such a big difference here?

You open fold a 346 from the cutoff for the 2nd time, but you raised 347 before. Does the 7 make such a big difference here?

Yes! With 347 we can catch 2 cards (2,8) to a pleasant 1cd and 2 (5,6) to a modest 1cd, but with 346 there's only 1 clean one (8) and 2 modest ones (2,7).

On the btn I'd open either, but I like DD's choices in the CO.

You open fold a 346 from the cutoff for the 2nd time, but you raised 347 before. Does the 7 make such a big difference here?

Yeah you should be thinking of your 2 card draws as draws to 1 card draw and just weigh up how differently they play depending on the cards you catch:

2: 2347 v 2346 (weaker)
5: 3457 vs 3456 (significantly weaker)
6/7: 3467 vs 3467 (the same)
8: 3478 vs 3468 (slightly stronger)

Considering one of your 4 cards with 346 is an open ender that decreases it's viability hugely.

Hey Chris,

is this a standard valuebet with 87432 against more straightforward players too, or is this just because of the high stakes thinking players who you assume would bluffcatch more? If so, whats the worst hand youre valuebettine here with?

I think in that spot with the pot being bloated and me showing so much strength I might get crying calls / bluff catcher calls from worse, and I can pretty safely fold to a raise. I don't really CR field on turn with too many worse hands so I guess that's near the bottom of it.

Any point in raising the flop here trying to charge arbianight if missed? What about the same situation if we had 4 cards to a wheel?

A little point to it, buying the button would be cool, but a lot of things have to work out right, and oogee benefits a lot from my raise too, plus gets to jam me the times he's pat like he was that hand. Doesn't really matter if I have wheel draw or not imo