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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (Mid Stakes)

He preemptive clicked CHECK/FOLD! No offense to DJ but after a few hands I realized O8 was his weakest spot and playing straight up was likely to get more value.

The hand was PLO not o8.

You are right that he had the c/f button clicked, but I still think you should consider c/r in similar spots.

And yes, you should try and play him in o8 as much as possible hehe

Time Link to 00:21:42

Yikes DJ. I really dislike the flop peel here. Your equity is just too poor against any reasonable 3betting range. Even light 3 betters are crushing you on this board texture.

Once JT checks the turn, I think his range is going to be unbalanced in general and you should go ahead and xback.

That makes me think that from a theoretical standpoint, JT's x here is a mistake unless he's doing some really funky xfolding stuff in this spot that I don't expect.

In practice it worked out though because we got DJ to make what I think is a terrible bet

Time Link to 00:22:07

DJ, if you're c/r this flop with tons of your value range, as I expect you are, and as you probably should be until JT demonstrates that he's going to 2 barrel more than he should, your range "bucket" is so full of semibluffs in this spot and so devoid of made hands that you shouldn't be making crazy air bluffs, especially with hands as strong as Q high.

Pretty lame indeed

Time Link to 00:22:27

JT,

I would probably go ahead and fold this river unless you think DJ is going to miss a lot of value (obv not) or you think he's going to be barrelling with a TON of his range.

Time Link to 00:23:13

DJ,

I'd probably go ahead and just call here and bluff some turns (e.g. 5, 6, 2,K) and call some turns planning on playing pretty fit or fold. I feel like almost everyone is unbalanced when they raise this flop texture and so I'd much rather make my opponent fire two barrels against my whole range. Also when you have a lot of semibluffs/made hands/overcards in your flop calling range, you become a ninja on the turn (unseen, precise, deadly, etc)

Time Link to 00:23:17

Sorry for commenting on this hand twice, but I have to disagree on the turn check as well. The most basic problem with checking the turn is that JT gets to play perfectly on the river against you because your hand is so obvious. The second problem is that you don't get him to fold A or K high on specific river cards (mostly straight completing). Of course, I can see the merit to the check since JT has very few outs against you on average and he will be going for the xraise a certain portion of the time...

It all goes back to the flop though.

Time Link to 00:10:17

Can either DJ or JT talk to me about the 3rd street decision here? Doesn't it kind of turn our hand face up? What situations would you be looking for to call the bring?

Time Link to 00:24:06

Again, I'm wondering about 3rd street here. Why does DJ open complete here? Seems like he's going to take down the antes a TON just by bringing in, no?

Time Link to 00:30:30

My basic strategy in HU O8 is to not raise from the BB... I just feel like hand equities are so close preflop that the value you gain from deception more than makes up for any value you mmight lose by not threebetting your strongest hands. I'm also not sure how effective light threebetting can be in HUO8.

Does not 3betting preflop have merit, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

JT,

I would probably go ahead and fold this river unless you think DJ is going to miss a lot of value (obv not) or you think he's going to be barrelling with a TON of his range.

Bah, it was early/our 1st round of LHE so I figured a showdown was fine there, still do.

Can either DJ or JT talk to me about the 3rd street decision here? Doesn't it kind of turn our hand face up? What situations would you be looking for to call the bring?

I didnt even notice that Dan limped there. He should pitch there vs a 3-door.

Time Link to 00:36:31

Joe,

did you just fold connecty cards otb in NLHE?

Again, I'm wondering about 3rd street here. Why does DJ open complete here? Seems like he's going to take down the antes a TON just by bringing in, no?

Not sure what you are asking here. What exact hand? Dan brings it in normal w/4J/4 and I fold? You want him to open complete?

Bah, it was early/our 1st round of LHE so I figured a showdown was fine there, still do.

I'd just err on the side of GTO strategy early in the match, which probably dictates a fold in this spot (not that I really know the GTO equalibriums, but that's my best guess). You can adjust later on if he's crazy with his barrelling tendencies, but if you think about your whole showdownable range, K9 really has to be near the bottom of what you show up with in this spot. Basically you're just going to be showing down too much when you c/c c/c if you aren't folding some part of your range here. Dan can easily counter by never bluffing and owning you until you readjust.

Not sure what you are asking here. What exact hand? Dan brings it in normal w/4J/4 and I fold? You want him to open complete?

No. Sorry I think I messed up the time stamp. It's probably the hand before Dan open completes with the 3 against your T I believe.