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Ghost: Soepgroente (#1) - $10/20 8-game by Soepgroente

Soepgroente plays 2 tables of $10/20 8-game simultaneously and discusses his strategies throughout.

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  • Game: Mixed
  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 69 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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ceegee

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Time Link to 00:13:20

def took note of your 2 to pat and probably woulda raised most 86s too

Posted over 2 years ago

Soepgroente

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I just started the vid but you mentionned 3-bet folding AQ is "an elementary mistake" and I disagree here, there are plenty of people against who it's clearly best to 3-bet it when they either fold too much or call lots of 3-bets but dont 4-bet bluff much so you can happily fold it to a 4-bet.

Oh, and yeah squeezing that 77 hand would be really bad.


If people fold too much to 3bets you shouldn't 3bet AQ but you should 3bet worse hands as a bluff instead of turning AQ into a bluff. I was mostly talking about 3b/folding against random people, of course you can and should 3b/fold AJ or AQ if someone calls every 3bet and only 4bets AK/QQ+. But that requires a significant read, in the dark I would never 3b/fold AQ.

Posted over 2 years ago

orestto

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I don't mind the QJT4ss hand that much, but the JJ97 and JJ52 are most likely not going to be profitable calls OOP, especially if you go into check-call mode.

Posted over 2 years ago

Joe Tall

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Time Link to 00:03:56

Solid fold, vs xxA is the key here. Vs any other later position baby, you should defend.

Posted over 2 years ago

Joe Tall

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Time Link to 00:05:26

Honestly, you are putting $10 in to win $13 on a steal. This is Stud8, the bring is a low and defends often. The 8-game structure is solid w/the $2 ante but the game is shorthanded so the dead money is a bit low, esp when players sit out. There is nothing wrong w/folding 3rd here.

Posted over 2 years ago

drunkjack

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Time Link to 00:17:59

Is it bad ethics to move seats to get position on Maxx86, the guy who was messing with you? I will do it when I believe a player is gunning for me, but only because it happens to me all the time

Posted over 2 years ago

Soepgroente

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I hate it when people do that to me. I think games would be best if noone got to pick seats honestly.

Posted over 2 years ago

dayoldhater

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Can you elaborate on why you would be folding 256 to an UTG open? Is it because Ceegee is a tough player, or is that standard for you?

Posted over 2 years ago

HJD

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Can you elaborate on why you would be folding 256 to an UTG open? Is it because Ceegee is a tough player, or is that standard for you?



taking a stab, id guess its because 256 doesnt do too well vs an utg range when we're OOP. so we have a positional disadvantage and a card disadvantage so we need a good skill advantage to make it +ev, and against other good players that will make life tough on us, we wont have a very big skill advantage.

Posted over 2 years ago

dayoldhater

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taking a stab, id guess its because 256 doesnt do too well vs an utg range when we're OOP. so we have a positional disadvantage and a card disadvantage so we need a good skill advantage to make it +ev, and against other good players that will make life tough on us, we wont have a very big skill advantage.



Still... we have the 2, the 5, and the 6!

Posted over 2 years ago

DeathDonkey

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Can you elaborate on why you would be folding 256 to an UTG open? Is it because Ceegee is a tough player, or is that standard for you?



Standard for me vs a good player raising UTG. We are a small dog to his range, but more importantly we are going to be OOP for the rest of the hand --> nasty reverse implied odds vs anyone tough.

Posted over 2 years ago

DeathDonkey

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Oh fold to river raise Vincent you payoff monkey Smile

You value bet like one of the worst hands in your range, gotta fold something

edit: worst hands in your range that you would value bet (c/c 875's and such?)

Posted over 2 years ago

Soepgroente

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As exploitable as it may sound, in that specific spot I think I look very suspicious and I'd be betting or c/f'ing. I honestly believe ceegee may bluffraise there and once in a while raise a slightly worse hand for value. I'd definitely bet/fold like #9.

256 vs utg is kinda meh, I'd call 245 235 237 247 257 though. 256 just doesn't make that many nutsy hands. You make #3 or 4 instead of #1 and 2, or #7 or 8 instead of #4 or 5, etc Smile Calling 256 on button tho. Because we do have the deuce, five ánd six.

Posted over 2 years ago

good2cu

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In the PLO rounds are people really so terrible that you can call OOP with QJT4/JJ52 hands? Seems far too loose.



JJ52ss is a total garbage hand, defending this can't be profitable vs anyone imo.

QJT4ss could be defendable vs really bad players with wide ranges.

Posted over 2 years ago

good2cu

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I'm just learning O8, but with the low and flush draws on this board, I wouldn't be surprised if a bare QQ is a fold on the flop here. You have no chance at half the pot when the low comes in, and a pair of QQ isn't super strong for the hi. I'd ask Chuck about this one.



Can't fold QQ here on the flop.

Vs 15% of hands we are 29% EQ with postion etc getting 7:1.

On the turn raising is spewy since we are only 33% vs 15% of hands. Def should call the turn and fold some rivers.

Posted over 2 years ago




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