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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (High Stakes)

Time Link to 00:21:35

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such great 'other games' coverage this season guys.

Worth watching just for Joe Tall actually speechless around the 7m mark!

I end up more than speechless again in this new episode, make sure you check it out! PLEASSSSE use time links!

Hood, I'll get to your comments soon. Probably by tomorrow, sorry for the delay!

Can you explain why you chose to lrr hands like J(66) vs his K http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/3241-Episode-Five?seek=1122 in stud and not 3 ball 22 in lhe? It seems like they have similar value and are likely to play out in a similar fashion.

Can you explain why you chose to lrr hands like J(66) vs his K http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/3241-Episode-Five?seek=1122 in stud and not 3 ball 22 in lhe? It seems like they have similar value and are likely to play out in a similar fashion.

Having 22 in LHE OOP

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
12,585,434,400 trials (Exhaustive)
22 50.33% (6,215,338,932 wins, 238,832,040 ties)
** 49.67% (6,131,263,428 wins, 238,832,040 ties)

vs having (66)J, that is going to be in-position post 3rd street:

ProPokerTools Stud Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
6h6d|Jh 58.75% (352,501 wins, 33 ties)
**|Ks 41.25% (247,466 wins, 33 ties)

Playability really, coming from equity + position, plus in Stud it's correct to complete/fold, not that Chino did that much but he should be, and getting a small chance he'll fold an over card (or two) on 3rd is a huge plus.

set 3: I play every hand the same, except maybe the 32o checkraise. I think that's fine by default, against this guy I would just checkfold, he is playing back way too much and rebluffing, i would strengthen my ranges throughout and catch the spew (he demonstrates that in this hand by making a pretty bad calldown with AJ high on a bad board. So if he's making calldowns like this I want him to compound his error by having a stronger - more value-orientated checkraise range, and lines in general.)

Great vid, the H portion seems to play much bigger than the other games, would you agree? Much bigger pots, many more showdowns. You pretty much owned him for 40 mins that lose a couple of medium-big HE hands that swings the match.

I looked over most of the hands you commented on and do not have any distinct argument to make, I can agree with most of them, yes. Vs a player like Chino, the LHE is going to play very very big. I also pick a lot of lines that are thin and buckle up for that variance. Players like Chino love to see chips fly, and if you take thin lines, your action will get more action. Only really works on this LAGgy subset of players.

32:30 Stud high. You check/fold 6th street with (8Q)KA69 vs xx9526 after betting the whole way. Don't understand this play at all.

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/3241-Episode-Five?seek=1957

My board is so scary and I plow 3 streets, he's not folding. He's got my 6 and 9, and I'm drawing to QKA hopefully? right? A meh-9 outs once, that's if one pair is good, 9:33 at 5:1 pot size, bah, I guess.

Time Link to 00:11:41

Any merit to betting turn? We're in good shape vs his flushdraw/LL** hands, in position so can take free showdowns and have decent implied odds on our scoop outs.

Time Link to 00:13:36

Could we lead river for value and fold to a raise? Seems like we lose the same amount when we're beat and get value from his worse 2 pairs... or are you worried about him raising as a bluff with LL*s*s/Q**s*s type hands?

Time Link to 00:16:12

I was kind surprised you folded here as we have 2 cards below his, but then I found we're only 45% vs a random hand... I'm assuming this would be a raise against a straightforward opponent? What's the highest 3card card (42*) you'd raise here against Chino?

Getting 2.2:1 can we ever limp here vs someone who defends/3bets very light and try to pickup on 4th?

Any merit to betting turn? We're in good shape vs his flushdraw/LL** hands, in position so can take free showdowns and have decent implied odds on our scoop outs.

Not against Chino, I have to see the river, and he'll check-raise this high-only turn with a wide range.

Could we lead river for value and fold to a raise? Seems like we lose the same amount when we're beat and get value from his worse 2 pairs... or are you worried about him raising as a bluff with LL*s*s/Q**s*s type hands?

No folding vs a player like Chino, he has such wide ranges, ever and there is far too much value in a showdown.

I was kind surprised you folded here as we have 2 cards below his, but then I found we're only 45% vs a random hand... I'm assuming this would be a raise against a straightforward opponent? What's the highest 3card card (42*) you'd raise here against Chino?

Very match-dependent, I'd raise a T42, np.

Getting 2.2:1 can we ever limp here vs someone who defends/3bets very light and try to pickup on 4th?

Its really tough to balance a range since he also defends so lightly you are going to get a lot of value by open-completing.

Time Link to 00:16:35

Ahhh! Don't fold this! Even against someone as loose as him. "meh, $6 in the middle, you can have it" is going to cost you a lot in hu razz. The majority of hands end on 3rd street, so if you're missing out on frequent steal spots like this you will lose a lot of edge. Especially at an aggressive limit like 15/30 with a large ante and bring in.

It's not like stud high where there are a ton of combinations he can continue with. Even a maniac understands he has to have a two card ten or better to continue here. Given that, it's mathematically correct to steal just based on fold equity alone, not to mention the fact that you can still take it down on later streets if he flats. It may seem like an irrelevant spot but these small pots really add up in hu razz since the majority of hands end on 3rd street. Get it in good syndrome is lethal if you play a lot of hu.

Loved this though. Lots of action and fun to watch. =)

Time Link to 00:33:09

Can we get away with checking 5th here? Or would that just be too unbalanced? We're obviously behind and don't really have any fold equity after getting raised on 4th. Are you planning to barrel 6th and 7th if you miss to try to get him to fold a pair of queens?

Ahhh! Don't fold this! Even against someone as loose as him. "meh, $6 in the middle, you can have it" is going to cost you a lot in hu razz. The majority of hands end on 3rd street, so if you're missing out on frequent steal spots like this you will lose a lot of edge. Especially at an aggressive limit like 15/30 with a large ante and bring in.

It's not like stud high where there are a ton of combinations he can continue with. Even a maniac understands he has to have a two card ten or better to continue here. Given that, it's mathematically correct to steal just based on fold equity alone, not to mention the fact that you can still take it down on later streets if he flats. It may seem like an irrelevant spot but these small pots really add up in hu razz since the majority of hands end on 3rd street. Get it in good syndrome is lethal if you play a lot of hu.

Loved this though. Lots of action and fun to watch. =)

I still think you are vastly underestimating Chino's ability to fold + his ability to re-steal but I do hear your point.

It was a crazy match, too bad these days are over now.

Can we get away with checking 5th here? Or would that just be too unbalanced? We're obviously behind and don't really have any fold equity after getting raised on 4th. Are you planning to barrel 6th and 7th if you miss to try to get him to fold a pair of queens?

Once I pair my door there is no checking 5th, so many cards get me out on 6th when I bet 5th. Not sure if you noticed and I feel its OK to be result oriented in a video review, but he raised me with complete air on 4th. He does not have to be ahead on 5th, and actually ran off two pair.