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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (High Stakes)

32:30 Stud high. You check/fold 6th street with (8Q)KA69 vs xx9526 after betting the whole way. Don't understand this play at all.

Time Link to 00:17:00

crazy its razz anything can happen 16-1 pretty good odds like you said he could already have a pair in the hole

Time Link to 00:07:07

"I don't know what game he thought he was playing."

Epic

Hood and Blumpster, CRUSHING me w/o time links! Watch this vid please: http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/26-Tool_Time/866-Using_the_Flash_Video_Player

Will get back to your comments in a bit.

Joe:

sometimes when you are talking about opening ranges in the stud games you seem to flipflop.

at times its 'he has 100% of hands' and others, like here, you suggest that its likely he has a 4 flush. he has ATC in the hole here, which some portion of the time is a 4 flush or 3 flush, but is like to be 2 random cards.

I've noticed this in other videos too when you defend and a card fits in with the shown board for opponent and you start to see monsters under the bed.

I think its totally different in 8 handed games or in a situation where he brings in and then defends, as its obviously much more likely that he has the cards underneath that a 4th heart (or a connected card) would represent. But in this case, against a super aggro villain, assuming he has anything other than 4 random cards is probably a mistake.

Obviously you know stud WAY better than I do, but this is a trend I've noticed and maybe you can comment on it. I don't want to sound overly negative, as I have learned a lot about stud games from you.

Thanks

I think what you are neglecting, and what I failed to say, is what I'm holding vs what he is holding. He makes xxQh4h and I hit a gut shot 3-str 8cJc4c9x, I just didnt improve enough, he has one of my 4s, he has my Q (if I make a T for a straight) PLUS he hits a card that 'fits' his 3-flush/4-flush area. It's that combination of events that leads to a fold.

folding T5o in a 2/3 structure is a pretty clear mistake even against an aggro 3bettor imo.
you're hand makes ok pairs and you're getting a good price. i don't even think i fold this against him in a 1/3 structure.

Going to have to agree. FWIW, I actually made this video as the 1st video in the series and have since opened up T5, but folding T4<

you adjust this a bunch by talking about the ATC more often through most of this video. i had only watched the first couple minutes when i made that comment

Coolio and thanks.

raise 3rd here

Yeah, I agree.

spew against that 6s board. I mean is he really showing down 5s after you 3 bet?

Time link busto? Not sure what hand you are talking about.

how are you folding here with a 3 straight and 4 overs to anylikely hand he has? the pot is small but we are giving him free money

Yeah, looking back, I 100% agree.

Time Link to 00:21:35

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such great 'other games' coverage this season guys.

Worth watching just for Joe Tall actually speechless around the 7m mark!

I end up more than speechless again in this new episode, make sure you check it out! PLEASSSSE use time links!

Hood, I'll get to your comments soon. Probably by tomorrow, sorry for the delay!

Can you explain why you chose to lrr hands like J(66) vs his K http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/3241-Episode-Five?seek=1122 in stud and not 3 ball 22 in lhe? It seems like they have similar value and are likely to play out in a similar fashion.

Can you explain why you chose to lrr hands like J(66) vs his K http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/3241-Episode-Five?seek=1122 in stud and not 3 ball 22 in lhe? It seems like they have similar value and are likely to play out in a similar fashion.

Having 22 in LHE OOP

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
12,585,434,400 trials (Exhaustive)
22 50.33% (6,215,338,932 wins, 238,832,040 ties)
** 49.67% (6,131,263,428 wins, 238,832,040 ties)

vs having (66)J, that is going to be in-position post 3rd street:

ProPokerTools Stud Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
6h6d|Jh 58.75% (352,501 wins, 33 ties)
**|Ks 41.25% (247,466 wins, 33 ties)

Playability really, coming from equity + position, plus in Stud it's correct to complete/fold, not that Chino did that much but he should be, and getting a small chance he'll fold an over card (or two) on 3rd is a huge plus.