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Poker Video: Stud/Stud 8 by Joe Tall (High Stakes)

Time Link to 00:06:55

would you steal, in a ring game, when your last to act and its folded to you?Regardless of dead cards?

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I really don't like the check/call on 5th. It's unlikely you will get raised i you bet given your board, unless he has a monster. I think I'd rather check/fold than check/call...

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I don't understand this play. Your opponent has 5QQ and you raise him with 5J4. Why on earth would you want to raise here? There is no way he folds his hand (what are you trying to represent??) and it's likely he will either 3-bet 5th or donk a safe 6th. Moreover, you need to think about the serious possibility that he himself has a flush draw, in which case he is drawing so much better than you. And no, as played, you should not be raising the river; it's more of a crying call imo.

I don't understand this play. Your opponent has 5QQ and you raise him with 5J4. Why on earth would you want to raise here? There is no way he folds his hand (what are you trying to represent??) and it's likely he will either 3-bet 5th or donk a safe 6th. Moreover, you need to think about the serious possibility that he himself has a flush draw, in which case he is drawing so much better than you. And no, as played, you should not be raising the river; it's more of a crying call imo.

We raise because the queen doesnt help his range a ton and hes bluffing. He has a single pair often and i get a free card a lot. I have a ton of equity with a gutshot flush draw and I like getting money in. But I take a free card a ton and get a raise on 7th because he donks two pair into me often. Also I have a read on thisg uy we have a lot of history.

We raise because the queen doesnt help his range a ton and hes bluffing. He has a single pair often and i get a free card a lot. I have a ton of equity with a gutshot flush draw and I like getting money in. But I take a free card a ton and get a raise on 7th because he donks two pair into me often. Also I have a read on thisg uy we have a lot of history.

The queen gave him an open pair. How is he bluffing?

The queen gave him an open pair. How is he bluffing?

I meant on 4th when he donks out hes often bluffing.

I meant on 4th when he donks out hes often bluffing.

Well, the 4th street play is a whole other discussion. (You are basically floating in a tiny limped pot...) But regardless, raising 5th doesn't make any sense in this situation.

Well, the 4th street play is a whole other discussion. (You are basically floating in a tiny limped pot...) But regardless, raising 5th doesn't make any sense in this situation.

I agree this hand was very fudged, i should have raised 3rd and the hand plays different after that.

I agree this hand was very fudged, i should have raised 3rd and the hand plays different after that.

Yes, I agree.

I'd like to see more videos of shorthanded/HU play in this format. Good job.

I really don't like the check/call on 5th. It's unlikely you will get raised i you bet given your board, unless he has a monster. I think I'd rather check/fold than check/call...

I agree I like check folding or betting, however if we bet 5th we have to bet 6th if he bricks and then we are in a weird spot on 7th. So this leaves us with check folding and check calling and I think check calling is ok since if you like betting we still get a bet in if we check/call and then the hand plays different on 6th.

I agree I like check folding or betting, however if we bet 5th we have to bet 6th if he bricks and then we are in a weird spot on 7th. So this leaves us with check folding and check calling and I think check calling is ok since if you like betting we still get a bet in if we check/call and then the hand plays different on 6th.

I don't really understand what you mean. If we check 5th, we have no way of winning the pot unless we check/call and get lucky. Note that if we do this, we have no implied odds unless we hit hidden trips; any other improvement makes us an open big pair. Also note that if he bets 5th, he is usually strong since our board is strong.

If instead we bet 5th, we will often win the pot right there, but if he calls we still have outs. I think betting will show an immediate profit. I don't think betting 5th commits us to barreling the whole hand through (but given our board on 6th, we should obviously bet). If we had bet 5th and 6th, then you just need to decide if (a) bluffing is profitable on the end or (b) there is value in betting if we make two pair. Check/calling on the end makes no sense since he will usually have a hand he hopes will win at showdown, and thus will rarely bluff and only value bet strong hands.

I don't really understand what you mean. If we check 5th, we have no way of winning the pot unless we check/call and get lucky. Note that if we do this, we have no implied odds unless we hit hidden trips; any other improvement makes us an open big pair. Also note that if he bets 5th, he is usually strong since our board is strong.

If instead we bet 5th, we will often win the pot right there, but if he calls we still have outs. I think betting will show an immediate profit. I don't think betting 5th commits us to barreling the whole hand through (but given our board on 6th, we should obviously bet). If we had bet 5th and 6th, then you just need to decide if (a) bluffing is profitable on the end or (b) there is value in betting if we make two pair. Check/calling on the end makes no sense since he will usually have a hand he hopes will win at showdown, and thus will rarely bluff and only value bet strong hands.

Ya betting seems strongest now. Good analysis.

I am starting to develop an interest in playing some HU Stud hi in the near future and am wondering if someone can give any advice on a few questions I have:
(FYI-I am quite comfortable playing shorthanded 2/4-5/10 currently and probably prefer 3-6 handed over a full table. I'm just a little leary about possibly getting worked by HU specialists...guess I could just man up and give it a try.)

-Would you recommend working on one's HU game by sitting at specific HU tables or by being the first to sit at an empty fullring table hoping for weaker opponents?

-What is the lowest limit you feel is actually beatable over the longrun taking the rake into factor?

-I know that fullring Stud hi is considered one of the highest variance forms of limit poker. Is HU similar?

-Any bankroll suggestions for HU Stud?

-I know that the player pool for HU Stud is not particularly large. Is there much action for a winning HU Stud player? I ask this because I heard a HU Stud reg today begging for action from the players at a fullring table. I told him to play one of the other guys sitting at a HU table and he said they won't play him.

Thanks in advance for any advice you may have.