jjd323
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jolty
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I would see 6th here 99% of the time. Seat 4 was the bringin, he checked behind 4th in position, alot of his live cards are dead, all of your spades are live. My line would lean more towards a raise to fold out seat 3 and get HU and clean up some pair outs when in fact seat4 did make a pair. That being said raising or calling would be purely based on how this player plays 4th/5th all the time as his line never changes. If he is never being aggressive in position without a made hand then it is a clear fold.
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jjd323
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I would see 6th here 99% of the time. Seat 4 was the bringin, he checked behind 4th in position, alot of his live cards are dead, all of your spades are live. My line would lean more towards a raise to fold out seat 3 and get HU and clean up some pair outs when in fact seat4 did make a pair. That being said raising or calling would be purely based on how this player plays 4th/5th all the time as his line never changes. If he is never being aggressive in position without a made hand then it is a clear fold.
My "readless" read on the player betting 5th, after playing passively on 4th, is that he didn't want his low-only hand getting jammed at that point. He probably has an 6w2A draw rather than a straight draw.
On 5th, now he has the made low, he wants to push out hands that might make a high against him, and he has some chance to scoop with his gutshot draw should he get action.
My low draw sucks, and I can only scoop when I make runner-runner babies AND he has A268 or A267 on 4th, _and_ he doesn't pair (I win with AK high), or I make runner-runner babies with a spade. Even then, my low won't always win. Basically, I am probably scooping <10% time and the pot is tiny.
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jolty
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Your discounting the fact that he is the bringin and that there is 3 dead aces, two dead 3s and a dead 5. Giving him credit for the case ace and made 6 low is astronomically insane, not to mention that he would have to be a crazy nit to not bet 4th in position with a 6 draw with 3 flush(A
iamond is only live ace) vs an 83 and a checking 53, who flatting 3rd and checking 4th is prolly a loose station. There are also no live 4s, so putting one in his hand is a decent probability. Not to mention he could have total air or any 1 card low draw in this spot and possibly even 2 pair. I think your low is def live at this point, you have the flush draw+pair outs, and your hand is extremely easy to play on 6th given what he/you hit. Also you are never ever drawing dead at some half of the pot on 5th and a large majority of the time drawing very live to scoop.
Edit: I have no idea how to work the suits. Smiley face is suppose to be a diamond...
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My "readless" read on the player betting 5th, after playing passively on 4th, is that he didn't want his low-only hand getting jammed at that point. He probably has an 6w2A draw rather than a straight draw.
On 5th, now he has the made low, he wants to push out hands that might make a high against him, and he has some chance to scoop with his gutshot draw should he get action.
My low draw sucks, and I can only scoop when I make runner-runner babies AND he has A268 or A267 on 4th, _and_ he doesn't pair (I win with AK high), or I make runner-runner babies with a spade. Even then, my low won't always win. Basically, I am probably scooping <10% time and the pot is tiny.
You might even want to fold this upfront in that low-ante PStars structure, and saying that, I wouldn't mind an open limp with this hand, in this structure either.
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