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Stud Hi/Lo - monotone ABL hands


jjd323

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Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Stud Hi/Lo $0.25 Ante - 8 players - View hand 560022
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3rd Street: (1 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx 9 Club____Seat 1 folds
Seat 2: xx xx A Club____Seat 2 folds
Seat 3: xx xx 5 Heart____Seat 3 calls
Seat 4: xx xx 2 Diamond____Seat 4 brings in for $1____Seat 4 calls
Seat 5: xx xx T Club____Seat 5 folds
Hero: K Spade A Spade 8 Spade___Hero raises
Seat 7: xx xx J Heart____Seat 7 folds
Seat 8: xx xx A Heart____Seat 8 folds

4th Street: (4 SB) (3 players)
Seat 3: xx xx 5 Heart 3 Diamond____Seat 3 checks
Seat 4: xx xx 2 Diamond 6 Diamond____Seat 4 checks
Hero: K Spade A Spade 8 Spade 3 Heart___Hero checks

5th Street: (2 BB) (3 players)
Seat 3: xx xx 5 Heart 3 Diamond K Diamond____Seat 3 checks____Seat 3 folds
Seat 4: xx xx 2 Diamond 6 Diamond 4 Heart____Seat 4 bets
Hero: K Spade A Spade 8 Spade 3 Heart 7 Spade___Hero folds



I feel quite comfortable playing my ABL monotone hands when I have the A or low-card up, although with an 8 I feel it is a lot worse from EP than a lower card. Is this a big mistake?

Secondly, given the action on 4th, can I ever assume that he doesn't have a decent low draw, and now he is semi-bluffing with a small pair + low draw? If so, should I ever continue here if I think it might go 3ways? I'm pretty sure folding is the play, but what if we were closing the action 3-ways for one bet in an otherwise similar spot?

Posted almost 2 years ago

delcrossb

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Getting 3:1 with an 87 low draw I'd probably just give up since the times it does go 3 ways we are really only playing for half, and the times it doesn't we are still in a tough spot.

Posted almost 2 years ago

jolty

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I would see 6th here 99% of the time. Seat 4 was the bringin, he checked behind 4th in position, alot of his live cards are dead, all of your spades are live. My line would lean more towards a raise to fold out seat 3 and get HU and clean up some pair outs when in fact seat4 did make a pair. That being said raising or calling would be purely based on how this player plays 4th/5th all the time as his line never changes. If he is never being aggressive in position without a made hand then it is a clear fold.

Posted almost 2 years ago

jjd323

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I would see 6th here 99% of the time. Seat 4 was the bringin, he checked behind 4th in position, alot of his live cards are dead, all of your spades are live. My line would lean more towards a raise to fold out seat 3 and get HU and clean up some pair outs when in fact seat4 did make a pair. That being said raising or calling would be purely based on how this player plays 4th/5th all the time as his line never changes. If he is never being aggressive in position without a made hand then it is a clear fold.



My "readless" read on the player betting 5th, after playing passively on 4th, is that he didn't want his low-only hand getting jammed at that point. He probably has an 6w2A draw rather than a straight draw.

On 5th, now he has the made low, he wants to push out hands that might make a high against him, and he has some chance to scoop with his gutshot draw should he get action.

My low draw sucks, and I can only scoop when I make runner-runner babies AND he has A268 or A267 on 4th, _and_ he doesn't pair (I win with AK high), or I make runner-runner babies with a spade. Even then, my low won't always win. Basically, I am probably scooping <10% time and the pot is tiny.

Posted almost 2 years ago

jolty

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Your discounting the fact that he is the bringin and that there is 3 dead aces, two dead 3s and a dead 5. Giving him credit for the case ace and made 6 low is astronomically insane, not to mention that he would have to be a crazy nit to not bet 4th in position with a 6 draw with 3 flush(AGriniamond is only live ace) vs an 83 and a checking 53, who flatting 3rd and checking 4th is prolly a loose station. There are also no live 4s, so putting one in his hand is a decent probability. Not to mention he could have total air or any 1 card low draw in this spot and possibly even 2 pair. I think your low is def live at this point, you have the flush draw+pair outs, and your hand is extremely easy to play on 6th given what he/you hit. Also you are never ever drawing dead at some half of the pot on 5th and a large majority of the time drawing very live to scoop.

Edit: I have no idea how to work the suits. Smiley face is suppose to be a diamond...

Posted almost 2 years ago

Joe Tall

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My "readless" read on the player betting 5th, after playing passively on 4th, is that he didn't want his low-only hand getting jammed at that point. He probably has an 6w2A draw rather than a straight draw.

On 5th, now he has the made low, he wants to push out hands that might make a high against him, and he has some chance to scoop with his gutshot draw should he get action.

My low draw sucks, and I can only scoop when I make runner-runner babies AND he has A268 or A267 on 4th, _and_ he doesn't pair (I win with AK high), or I make runner-runner babies with a spade. Even then, my low won't always win. Basically, I am probably scooping <10% time and the pot is tiny.



You might even want to fold this upfront in that low-ante PStars structure, and saying that, I wouldn't mind an open limp with this hand, in this structure either.

Posted almost 2 years ago




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