Josh, at 40' you say you would probably call the 5bet-push with KJo against a typical 5-bet range. I'm not sure I understand why? The pot gives us 1.6 to 1, but our equity against his range is just a little better then 1:3? What do I miss here?
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Josh, at 40' you say you would probably call the 5bet-push with KJo against a typical 5-bet range. I'm not sure I understand why? The pot gives us 1.6 to 1, but our equity against his range is just a little better then 1:3? What do I miss here?
Somewhere in the movie you say that as long as you do not 4bet to more then 120 (for NL400) you are not committed to call with a hand like KJo given some range vs FI. Could you plz show me what equation you have used to arrive at this number.
Guess it would be something like:
(y+x)/(y-x)=z
X=your 4bet size
y=the efficient stack you start with
z=the pot odds you need
Now i need to get X out there but dont know how to do that :S ? Is this the method you used or how did you do it?
Josh, at 40' you say you would probably call the 5bet-push with KJo against a typical 5-bet range. I'm not sure I understand why? The pot gives us 1.6 to 1, but our equity against his range is just a little better then 1:3? What do I miss here?
He would call the 3bet and not 4bet him.
how relevant is this series to hu? seems like it's packed with good info, but does it translate directly? thank you.
I am a new member and I just watched this video and my only comment is that it could be at least 10-15mins shorter. There's too much focus on ranges in here, and although I think it's a great thing to focus on ranges, my feeling is that it's has been done in a too confusing manner in this video. Overall, I like the topic and the rest of the vid was very good imo.
going to need to watch it at least 3 times to understand it ![]()
Josh, amazing video. I've been strugfling and analyzing my 3 and 4bet pots for a long time now but this is going to help me tremendously!
Only one question though, how can I figure out(calculate?) my 3bet % and 5bet %, since here I can check If I'm 3betting to light or not 5betting enough.
Thanks, keep up the good work
Sorry correction, with the 3bet% and 5bet % I obviously mean the ratio between these two numbers.
Josh, amazing video. I've been strugfling and analyzing my 3 and 4bet pots for a long time now but this is going to help me tremendously!
Only one question though, how can I figure out(calculate?) my 3bet % and 5bet %, since here I can check If I'm 3betting to light or not 5betting enough.
Thanks, keep up the good work
I can't think of a really great way to do this. The fold to 4-bet% stat could be a quick and dirty estimation. If this number isn't much over 45% then you're not 3-betting a particularly unbalanced range, and/or your opponents aren't exploiting your 3-betting strategy.
You could also filter in HEM for situations where you could 3-bet vs. did 3-bet, and situations where you could raise a 4-bet vs. those where you did. This would still fail to filter out spots vs. non-regulars.
A 3rd way would be to use Poker Razor. You could model your 3-betting strategy, and a typical regular's 4-betting strategy and see how profitable it is for your opponent. My current series is on using Poker Razor, so you can watch that if you want to learn to quickly calculate a lot of the things in this series that I spent hours doing in Excel.
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This is incorrect, in fact its not even a preflop stat. Steal limped pot is how often a player bets on the flop in a limped pot when he is checked to and he is last to act.
This is incorrect, in fact its not even a preflop stat. Steal limped pot is how often a player bets on the flop in a limped pot when he is checked to and he is last to act.
Time link should be 8:03, but but somehow got placed at 0:03 and I am unable to edit it.
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Hi Josh
I have to watch it a couple of times more, but could u please explain the calculation behind those numbers. If i type in the typical range JJ+ AK This is 3%. If I am holding KdJh and I remove in stove all combos in Vilians range which are including a Kd or a Jh, stove says Villian has a 5 bet range of 2,3% and not 2,4%.
thanks for the vid!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Josh
I have to watch it a couple of times more, but could u please explain the calculation behind those numbers. If i type in the typical range JJ+ AK This is 3%. If I am holding KdJh and I remove in stove all combos in Vilians range which are including a Kd or a Jh, stove says Villian has a 5 bet range of 2,3% and not 2,4%.
thanks for the vid!!!!!!!!!!
ok so we want 2 numbers. # of total combinations, and # of combinations in his range.
# of total combinations = C(50,2) = 1225. since we have KJ, there are only 50 cards from which villain's hand can be composed.
# of combinations of AA-JJ,AK = 6 each AA/QQ, 3 each KK/JJ, 12 AK = 30
% of range = 30/1225 = 2.449%
Pokerstove is likely not accounting for the 2 cards in our hand. If we used C(52,2) instead of C(50,2), we'd get that 2.26% which is wrong.
ok so we want 2 numbers. # of total combinations, and # of combinations in his range.
# of total combinations = C(50,2) = 1225. since we have KJ, there are only 50 cards from which villain's hand can be composed.
# of combinations of AA-JJ,AK = 6 each AA/QQ, 3 each KK/JJ, 12 AK = 30
% of range = 30/1225 = 2.449%
Pokerstove is likely not accounting for the 2 cards in our hand. If we used C(52,2) instead of C(50,2), we'd get that 2.26% which is wrong.
Thanks Josh for the clarification!
re-posting the sheets in the 1st/8th eps because I think they might have expired.
http://membervideos.deucescracked.com/sthief09/10542/Prof%20Plotkin%20Sheets.rar
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