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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by sthief09 (Mid Stakes)

clowntable's the illest. looking forward to watching this

Oh didn't know this was picked
Gotta explain my HUD quickly:

#hands/VPIP/PFR/Attempt to steal
fold to flop bet/fold to turn bet/went to showdown/won at showdown
AF/flop AF/turn AF/river AF
folds BB to steal/folds SB to steal/CBets/raises CBet

I actually only use the VPIP/PFR/ATTS, the cbet related ones and the folds blinds

note on the notes:
DBF = donk bet folded...mostly irrelevant but I used to note whenever they did it in like a counter.

Hey Josh great vid as usual. I do have a question though. On the Q5 hand about 15 minutes in, I don't understand why we shouldn't c-bet there. The AQ3 flop seems like it would hit our range a ton and miss most of villains range (suited connects and small-mid PPs). Just wondering if you could explain more. Thanks.

Because that's turning our hand in a bluff.

Is anyone else having problems with this video crashing VLC right after the introduction? I've seen this happen with a couple of other videos - VLC will play the intro and then die, but the video works fine in WMP.

Hey Josh great vid as usual. I do have a question though. On the Q5 hand about 15 minutes in, I don't understand why we shouldn't c-bet there. The AQ3 flop seems like it would hit our range a ton and miss most of villains range (suited connects and small-mid PPs). Just wondering if you could explain more. Thanks.

At the time I thought it's a pretty clear valuebet because he can call with gutters. KT, JT coincidentally hands people like to defend with. Results obviousely make me look like a genius

Re: le ti ga. I have some history with him from my old database, I thought he'd be on the level of 4betting light the first time around so I was concidering a push there. I usually hit the max button to see how much FE I should have.
876 flop at around 20minutes: He cbets a lot and a raise there should look like I'm probably not folding + it should hit my calling range PF somewhat well. Additionaly I have some superweak GS outs nd well the whole point of calling PF is that I will be making moves on some flops, especially against a guy who cbets that much.

Random note about the color coding:
pinkish = seen them do stuff indicative of a donk like posting, openlimping
grey = donktag
green = random note
orange = decent+ HU villain (mostly note the aggro ones)
red = 2+2er I concider good+ or other random good people

31 minutes re the betsizing:
As you say we're targeting an Ax hand. Generally against people who I think may not be that good I make the turn bet a little smaller and the riverbet a little bigger because I want their line of thinking to be:
"Oh well we have TP, lets call this turn bet it's not that threatening, we have the best hand" (turn)
"Oh well we called the turn, we still have TP, we can't really call turn and then fold river" (river)

[just commenting on stuff as we go along, love the analysis so far]

38ish table 1:
I don't think I'm taking him off an Ace, the bet was to take him off PPs >4 and <T which I think make up a bunch of his calling range PF. Sample is small but he seems tight enough to not be calling many Ax hands PF. But thinking about it there's two things
a) AJ, AT he's still calling and together they make up way more hands than the PPs and usually people ch/call flop with them
b) I think checking back and betting river if checked to is a lot more credible to rep the Ax
But yeah I'd concider trippling if called and that's why I tend to bet smallish on the turn. It gets him off the middling pairs and costs me less if I tripple because I think most of the time once the third bets coes villains are much more concerend with "OMG he bet 3 streets" than with the sizes. May be faulty thinking though, dunno.

40ish table 4:
Funny, my thinking was "I just raised and folded...my raise will look very strong now"

41ish - table 1:
Completely agree. I dunno what I was thinking...probably "Bet into two looks stronger"; I have a sick overcard + crapgutter + if I bet turn they can't continue with much.
Bet should have been a lot bigger though.
didn't remember the hand. lolwat..very surprised I didn't bet the river. wow

37 minutes, you said you like to barrel just when a good card comes, what to you consider a good card on the turn when the flop is ace high? I usually don't ever two barrel an ace high flop, leak?
I was thinking, and since his combinations of Acehigh combos are a lot higher than pp's there isn't much point in double barreling.

37 minutes, you said you like to barrel just when a good card comes, what to you consider a good card on the turn when the flop is ace high? I usually don't ever two barrel an ace high flop, leak?
I was thinking, and since his combinations of Acehigh combos are a lot higher than pp's there isn't much point in double barreling.

Yeah I agree with this. Combinatorics makes it a little worse to barrel. But when the flop is highcard, lowcard, lowcard by brain is just wired to bet/bet.
The nice thing is that you can get them to fold the middling pairs on the turn AND depending on villain get them to fold Ax on the river.
Usually helps to know your villains that love calling with Ax PF in these spots.

Because that's turning our hand in a bluff.

How is betting with likely the best hand turning it into a bluff? We can easily lay it down to a check-raise and we get value from gutters and such. I don't see why we wouldn't c-bet.

I guess what I'm asking is, are you saying we'd only c-bet this board with the nuts or air? And that with hands that have some showdown value it's better to check? If so, I guess that makes sense.

In a vacuum we can check back and get value on a later street from a wider range + give him the chance to bluff.

In a vacuum we can check back and get value on a later street from a wider range + give him the chance to bluff.

Makes sense. Thank you. Enjoyed the video clowntable.

At the time I thought it's a pretty clear valuebet because he can call with gutters. KT, JT coincidentally hands people like to defend with. Results obviousely make me look like a genius

Re: le ti ga. I have some history with him from my old database, I thought he'd be on the level of 4betting light the first time around so I was concidering a push there. I usually hit the max button to see how much FE I should have.
876 flop at around 20minutes: He cbets a lot and a raise there should look like I'm probably not folding + it should hit my calling range PF somewhat well. Additionaly I have some superweak GS outs nd well the whole point of calling PF is that I will be making moves on some flops, especially against a guy who cbets that much.

Random note about the color coding:
pinkish = seen them do stuff indicative of a donk like posting, openlimping
grey = donktag
green = random note
orange = decent+ HU villain (mostly note the aggro ones)
red = 2+2er I concider good+ or other random good people

31 minutes re the betsizing:
As you say we're targeting an Ax hand. Generally against people who I think may not be that good I make the turn bet a little smaller and the riverbet a little bigger because I want their line of thinking to be:
"Oh well we have TP, lets call this turn bet it's not that threatening, we have the best hand" (turn)
"Oh well we called the turn, we still have TP, we can't really call turn and then fold river" (river)

[just commenting on stuff as we go along, love the analysis so far]

38ish table 1:
I don't think I'm taking him off an Ace, the bet was to take him off PPs >4 and <T which I think make up a bunch of his calling range PF. Sample is small but he seems tight enough to not be calling many Ax hands PF. But thinking about it there's two things
a) AJ, AT he's still calling and together they make up way more hands than the PPs and usually people ch/call flop with them
b) I think checking back and betting river if checked to is a lot more credible to rep the Ax
But yeah I'd concider trippling if called and that's why I tend to bet smallish on the turn. It gets him off the middling pairs and costs me less if I tripple because I think most of the time once the third bets coes villains are much more concerend with "OMG he bet 3 streets" than with the sizes. May be faulty thinking though, dunno.

40ish table 4:
Funny, my thinking was "I just raised and folded...my raise will look very strong now"

ok I kind of had a feeling you had some history with le ti ga. on the 876 flop, yeah if he's c-betting a lot (high 70s%+) that's good, but if he's around 70-75% I think he's probably betting his stonger hands/draws and weak draws, and checking a lot of his hands that missed and ones like J8 or T7 that would suck to get raised. I think the better you think he is, the less you should be inclined to raise this flop, because it's pretty mindless to just auto-bet even half your range on this flop.

the thing at 31 mins is true, that usually small bet turn/big bet river is the best way to get paid by 1 pair. I don't remember the hand 100% but maybe I just thought he'd call the turn with an A a lot.

38 mins, maybe you're right, so let's break his range down and see how it looks. let's say given his preflop and flop calls, his range is AQo/2 (we'll say half the time he 3-bets it, and always 3-bets AQs), AJ, ATs-A8s, 44, 33, TT-55. that range is about 50/50, at 33 folds (99-55, A9s-A8s non-diamonds) and 31 calls/raises. I think it's possible he calls A4s/A3s preflop though unlikely, and I think it's very possible he'd fold 88-66 on the flop, or call A9s/A8s on the turn. so I think those numbers should be weighted toward him continuing more often than it shows. it's close though. the looser he is, the more you should 2 barrel here.

at min 40, if you respect each other and are on that level, it makes sense. from my perspective, you had 80 or 90 hands with him lifetime, and you had made 2 quick moves at him and failed, which I think just makes you look really crazy and aggro. if you've played hundreds or thousands of hands with him, I can understand your thinking.

In a vacuum we can check back and get value on a later street from a wider range + give him the chance to bluff.

yeah, key words being "in a vacuum" because against a TAG regular you're going to have to made some sort of adjustment. if not, you're betting Ax, and a lot of bluffs. if you raised UTG, it's not such a big deal because you're not going to have a lot of 75s and K7o that weigh your range toward missed hands. if you raised on the button, you either have to c-bet that flop less often with your air hands or value bet a wider range, or a little of both. this might be a decent spot to open up your vb range so he can't just call all day with 77, but it also builds up a pot to the point where you're just praying he checks it down with you.