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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by FoxwoodsFiend (Mid Stakes)

very good video, you are the best!

thanks for discussing my hand

but one question:
my A2o hand:
I think its grindcore that advices raising only 3BB from the SB, cause he argues that villain has to play back with about 40% of his hands in order to not make it instantly profitable for us.
We could even just c/f any flop and we would show a profit.
And very very rarely people play like 40% of their hands out of the BB vs a SB raise.
Doesn't that make sense also?

You can't look at it in a vacuum, you have to compare the relative profitability of the two approaches. If you 3x and the guy only plays back 39%, sure it's automatically profitable, but maybe 4xing would make him play back way less and be more profitable. Also, you can't just isolate away the gameplay aspects of the decisions you choose: you're not check/folding every flop, you're continuing to play on in the hand most of the time and if that's the case, you want the pot to be bigger relative to the stack sizes

And I agree with you that he isn't folding the turn that often, other than with some total air float or hands like J9 that give up their gutshot, but isn't it great for us if he calls with so many weak pair hands which we can barrel him off on the river (assuming he isn't turning weak made hands into a bluff all the time + I would bet bigger on rivers that don't improve me)?
If he calls both on the flop and turn and doesn't raise his range is soooo weak, cause as you said, he would raise most of his two pair+ hands either on the flop or turn, so 2barreling might not be a good idea but 3barreling probably is, especially cause he probably doesn't expect me to triple barrel that often, cause we have some fullring history?

I just think that barreling a turn when you KNOW you're going to get called and justifying by saying he's folding the river is optimistic: people make calldowns in the blinds, they could improve and call, etc. It takes a specific read on somebody to bet as an installment plan approach

do you think raising the turn is major spew?

it was my first inclination when seeing the hand, cause both players are very unlikely to have a huge made hand, other than wader could have the J9, cause they would raise pretty much every single better hand on the flop, cause of its drawheavyness (I'd expect them to c/raise QT and sets pretty much always).

So the only hand that we don't beat is J9, and (as you said) it would need a pretty non standard line for him to have this.
He will c/r the flop often and if he turns the nuts I'd expect him to donk J9 bigger, cause there are tons of cards that can kill his action (J or 9) or kill his hand (diamonds, prolly spades) and he just gives a super nice price for every FD, which makes it less likely that we raise it on the turn.
Also he would probably just go for a check/shove, hoping you have some two pair/set hands or you are betting the flushdraw again.

And with Q8 we have the same problem as he has with J9: there are tons of horrible cards in the deck.
So wouldn't it be a great spot to raise when its highly unlikely that we don't have the best hand, plus tons of river cards destroy our hand or our action, plus he might do this with hands like T8 and stack off or he just spazz gets it in with a FD if we just raise and don't shove hoping for the best?

I think if you raise here you only get action from better hands and putting in a lot more money when you have the worst of it to protect from draws/make the hand more playable (which is important, but significantly less so since you haver position and can evaluate the river) isn't worth the risk that he's taking a non-standard line with 9J or a set. People do weird things and you can't just automatically rule out better hands as it's hard either way to make sense of what Wader's doing here

pretty funny to see yourself the first time in a video (a great one btw).

To the 3x vs 4x discussion:
I think it´s highly opponent based if you steal 3,3.5 or 4x.
For example if you want to steal vs me:
I will call 3x opens from the SB with about 60-70% (no joke, i mean you´re getting 2:1 and you are in position), the lower 30-40% are a insta3bet as long as the opponent doesn´t adapt.
Many players out there are having a ridiculous high SB stealingrange (often enough BUsteal < SBsteal) and you can play back on them a lot very profitably.


On the other hand you can steal vs massgrinders and nits 3x easily, and so on.
Vs the most guys it won´t make too much difference but you should try to adapt to certain opponents.

just my 2 cents

pennyyy

the last JJ hand was played by me. I think the reason I didnt 3-bet him pf was because he had a high fold to 3-bet % and id basically turn jacks into a bluff by 3-betting him (Id rather be 3-betting him with trashier hands that had no value flatting).

As for post-flop, basically he was kinda on the nittier scared money side i think and thats why i shoved, i dont think he was the best handreader, but fwf is right -- if he was a good handreader i would have been snapped off and my line makes little sense now that i think about it. I was mostly hoping he was on level 1 thinking and had a marginal hand that would get scared by a river shove.

with regards to sets, i guess he could have them but shoving the river with them would be pretty bad as there's just no reason to think with the board coming down this way that your EV on an overbet is higher than a standard bet which gets called way more often. of course, there's always room for leveling and maybe if you know that he knows that you're repping a narrow range he'll make a hero call, but generally speaking shoving with a set here would be really bad

as to 3-betting JJ: if you're playing in games where 3-betting JJ isn't mandatory, it's because people react to 3bets too weakly. if that's the case and they're only playing back with AK, QQ+ and folding the vast majority of their range (or peeling flops with pocket pairs and check/folding the flop when they miss), you should be 3-betting them more and more. if you do so and they're at all adaptive, you're going to need to start 3-betting JJ for balance.

this was exactly the situation. I just figured I had a +EV opportunity with his 83% fold to 3-bet stat, why waste it now with a good hand when I could always 3-bet bluff him later a few times. Obviously he reacts after a certain number of 3-bets and the +EV situation dissapears. This way I get extra EV from flatting jacks instead of wasting it on 3-bet bluffing which a lot of weaker hands (that couldnt flat) could do just as well.

Can't believe I hadn't watched this video before today. Epic FWF.

watched this whole series over the past 2 days. i heard foxwoodsfiend talking in my head as i was falling asleep last night. i wish i was joking. thanks though FWF.