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FaceMyAlterEgo

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So villain appears to be a lose / aggro fishy player, running 33/23 Agfrq. 75 over 30 hands. 1 tabling. Standard 3bet for value with TT vs. this guy. Obviously I don't have any specific reads on the guy, so I can only guess what a range a player like that has.
Flop cbet I am sure is good, once he c/c and donks turn, what would you make of that. Of course, with most fish that have proven to be rather passive, this would be a rather simple fold, since I would assume that fish has SD value once he c/c, and is not turning that into a bluff. But with guys like that, with somewhat spewy stats, even though over a small sample?

If we want to play back here, calling seems better, because we mostly only beat bluffs. On the other hand, calling with a hand that can't improve but is very vulnerable seems problematic. Should we ever call here and fold some rivers, or is it fold now, or call / close your eyes, call any river?

Poker Stars $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1849487
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BTN: $915.67
SB: $464.66
BB: $779.94
UTG: $2278.97
MP: $535.02
Hero (CO): $937.56

Pre Flop: ($7.50) Hero is CO with T Spade T Heart
UTG raises to $15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $50, 3 folds, UTG calls $35

Flop: ($107.50) 3 Diamond 3 Heart Q Club (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $65.96, UTG calls $65.96

Turn: ($239.42) 5 Spade (2 players)
UTG bets $150

Posted 10 months ago

FaceMyAlterEgo

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StackHunter

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Tbh, in my experience this line is usually a bluff. Regs tend to donk OTR, when they improve. Although you are deep here, I think you can call OTT and fold to a river bet, since you look really strong when you call - there are no draws, so you are basically repping Qx and better.

Posted 10 months ago

FaceMyAlterEgo

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villain is certainly no reg, he was one tabeling zoom. I agree that this line is often a bluff when coming from a reg, but from a fish? And I feel calling turn without calling most rivers could be bad because the fish likely does not notice how strong my range should be.

Posted 10 months ago

Miserry

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But most fishes are scared of bluffing the river, so if you are worried about scenario when villain is a fish, i think we still can call turn/ fold river.

P.S. in my expirience fishes are not bluffing with this line.

Posted 10 months ago




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