Ansky
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unreal call with the K9 in the bottom right and great vid. was just wondering if u adapt ur overall game plan or ranges when playing zoom instead of normal tables, like stealing more, defending lighter against steals or any general observations u've made on how the games play. for example at the 100 & 200NL games, people don't seem to stack off as light at all pf. Even if you've played a bunch of hands with someone, with little or no game flow is hard to kno how they perceive your range or how they think you perceive theirs, like do u think u can get away with more or less because of this e.g. 3 betting utg opens more as a bluff (which ppl seem to do) or does it just favour solid ABC poker? thanks
Well for 1 thing I don't think 2/5 plays much dif than mid stakes nl. I think the player pool is small enough that the lack of "flow" makes no real difference.
I think you pretty much should just try to play every hand as best you can and as properly adjusted for the table conditions as possible (just like you always would).
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Ansky
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This is an interesting spot here where I almost ever 4 bet or fold, but was recently wondering if calling oop with these kind of hands (KQs, AXs, maybe some other suited broadway) might be OK vs a high 3 bet % that plays aggro postflop (weaker range that we can exploit and bluff more against).
My question is, what is your postflop plan when you call here? I guess you will be c/raising a lot of flops, of course when you flop strong draws, but I guess that there might be some good boards where you will turn 2 overs with some backdoor equity into a bluff as well?
Basically yes, I am not folding if I flop anything resembling a piece.
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Ansky
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Sad we missed the action on table 2 with 88. Are you calling a 2nd barrel here?
Great vid by the way!
Short answer is a mixture of yes and no... (fairly dependant on a lot of player factors).
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Ansky
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bottom left. when the CO opens and the Bu calls (both players with normal stats), and you have ATo in the SB. Would you ever consider flatting or 3-betting? what's the bottom of your continuation range there?
this is actually almost definitely a 3bet. Bad fold by me.
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Ansky
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didn't see the vid but just from the foto 2 tables out of 4 are
seat 1) 24/23
seat 2) 23/18
seat 3) 16/14
seat 4)20/17
etc etc. how can these be profitable if u just try to outplay regs in a lightning fast speed?
There's definitely times like this, and they suck. But you also get random 60/40 guys in the fields, and you are just getting in such good volume that I think it makes it worth it.
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Ansky
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Why not bet much smaller on the turn with the flush? The best he can do is a one card Ten-high flush, and even a fish knows he's in trouble against our line. I like a $100 bet or even smaller because I just don't see him calling 155 ever.
You are 100% right about everything you said.
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best videos around. such great spots too; so many of the hands are quite archetypal of different villains, board textures and dynamics. From villain's perspective in the K9s, what is his value range he is repping. Would he ever float w/ AQ and then merge? In essence, what does he perceive your call 4bet, raise flop range to be?
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Pausing b4 I see the end of this hand to comment. Weird line for sure once he leads turn. I think preflop his range is kind of strong, despite the 4b size he did 4b to about 1/3 the stack of the player you 3b. In game I'd probably call the turn and flip a coin when he shoves the river, but watching now I think I'd just dump the turn. Is he turning TT-QQ into a bluff or reverse floating your flop raise and now value betting AJ or AQ? Doubtful... With that said also doubtful he would play AK this way, wouldn't he check turn? So weird.
If you give him a wider range preflop then I think I end up calling and puke/calling river. V curious to see what you did!
edit: You gave him wider range pre. Why he 4b so tiny? How you make that read! NH
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Pausing b4 I see the end of this hand to comment. Weird line for sure once he leads turn. I think preflop his range is kind of strong, despite the 4b size he did 4b to about 1/3 the stack of the player you 3b. In game I'd probably call the turn and flip a coin when he shoves the river, but watching now I think I'd just dump the turn. Is he turning TT-QQ into a bluff or reverse floating your flop raise and now value betting AJ or AQ? Doubtful... With that said also doubtful he would play AK this way, wouldn't he check turn? So weird.
If you give him a wider range preflop then I think I end up calling and puke/calling river. V curious to see what you did!
edit: You gave him wider range pre. Why he 4b so tiny? How you make that read! NH
Big part of the call down is simply that he is pretty high in his value range. That is what he means when he says " I don't think I can fold". He has five hands in his value range. Nothing else. 99/88/K9/K8/98. He snap calls 99/88 it is the top of his range. K9 the middle of the range is a crying call as we see. Bottom of the range K8/98 is a fold. It is alot more about this logic than whether he beats AK or not.
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i think anskys preflop logic is a bit off and he should tighten up his game there, his "well maybe I shove pocket pairs after 3betting" stuff just sounds so imprecise
It's hard to give a general strategy of when to 3b/5b pps, as it is very dependant on exact positions and exact players. I think I need a little bit of evidence to conclude that 3b to 5b baby pps is right vs a certain player, but I'd always consider it an option.
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Pausing b4 I see the end of this hand to comment. Weird line for sure once he leads turn. I think preflop his range is kind of strong, despite the 4b size he did 4b to about 1/3 the stack of the player you 3b. In game I'd probably call the turn and flip a coin when he shoves the river, but watching now I think I'd just dump the turn. Is he turning TT-QQ into a bluff or reverse floating your flop raise and now value betting AJ or AQ? Doubtful... With that said also doubtful he would play AK this way, wouldn't he check turn? So weird.
If you give him a wider range preflop then I think I end up calling and puke/calling river. V curious to see what you did!
edit: You gave him wider range pre. Why he 4b so tiny? How you make that read! NH
Would the answer for villains line be in stack pot ratio? Like if he bet the turn that small to set up a bigger river bluff to get out more folds?... By betting the turn that small he can now jam a lot bigger on the river.
If he had the AK there wouldn't he likely be betting the turn 1/2 pot or a bit more to get better spr for the river for value to get easier calls.
He might put Ansky on exactly the type of hand that he holds now based on pre and now he thinks he will get out a ton of folds vs that type of a hand with a bigger river shove?
Although the weird line now ruined it.. 
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