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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by blah234 (Mid Stakes)

This is getting long... but I hope you understand how my though process is by now.

It sounds very tight weak to me, but I could be misunderstanding something. It seems to lead to a lot of situations where you cannot bet very often on later streets => you will only get cooler action and your opponent will have a very easy time with his marginal holdings. That is the opposite of what you want.
But again I could have misunderstood you.

Hi, great vid, like all other by you.

Sorry for not linking the spot.

14:10
KQs, the 4 flush board.

Don't you expect unknown villain to bluff the river in some % of the time, to makes us higher EV than donking 1/5 pot ?

I think a lot of 200nl regs should bluff there river a fair amount of the time, because they still have some fold equity against bottom of our range, and probably all little bit more aggro regs can bluff their whole range, which has no showdown value.

So i think check/calling can be higher EV there, instead of smallish bet.

All in all I would rather 3bet/5bet the suited aces.

If villain for example have 60% f3b, 25% 4bet and 15% call vs 3bet, you prefer suited aces, because they have almost the same equity as pocket pairs, but also villain has a calling range and suited aces play way more better in 3b pots, than low pockets.

Is this the reason you prefer them to 3bet/5bet ?

Thank you.

@blah234, Don't you expect unknown villain to bluff the river in some % of the time, to makes us higher EV than donking 1/5 pot ?

I think a lot of 200nl regs should bluff there river a fair amount of the time, because they still have some fold equity against bottom of our range, and probably all little bit more aggro regs can bluff their whole range, which has no showdown value.

So i think check/calling can be higher EV there, instead of smallish bet.

What is my perceived range for calling flop and turn? it doesn't matter if you have FE vs the bottom of villain's range a bet is +EV or its not. For example, getting bottom 10% of someone's range to fold by betting 2/3 pot is in the -EV category.

Thank you for answer.

So your percieved range looks like pocket pairs and probably some nut flushdraws, like AsQx, AsJx, AsTx (if not raised turn with) and flushes which not raised the turn.
I think if you check, he can bet his whole no_showdown_value range (i think he has a lot of bluffs, because our percieved range for floating this flop is fairly wide and he has good fold equity with his turn bet, and have a good equity with 2 overs against our turn calling range), because we have to fold all non-flush pocket pairs + lowerst flushes, which should make his bluff on the river +EV, because he has arround 40% fold equity.

Thank you for answer.

So your percieved range looks like pocket pairs and probably some nut flushdraws, like AsQx, AsJx, AsTx (if not raised turn with).
I think if you check, he can bet his whole no_showdown_value range (i think he has a lot of bluffs, because our percieved range for floating this flop is fairly wide and he has good fold equity with his turn bet, and have a good equity with 2 overs against our turn calling range), because we have to fold all non-flush pocket pairs + lowerst flushes, which should make his bluff on the river +EV, because he has more than 40% fold equity.

If my perceived range is PP and some FD then on the river assuming I'd call with every flush then how am I folding more than 40% of my range? Half the pp combos also has a FD. He may think he have good FE with his turn bet then when I call again on the turn what is my perceived range for seeing the river? How does that relate to betting the river?

If most 200nl regs expect unknown to float OOP with a wide range then they are bad at poker because it means they do it themselves and it's impossible to float OOP with a wide range and be +EV vs a competent opponent. Especially given positions on that hand.

If most 200nl regs think that float wide range on the flop = wide range on the river they are bad at poker because people don't call with anywhere near 100% of their flop range facing a turn bet. They are making incorrect assumptions on villain's range.

I made the assumption villain isn't super terrible. I could be wrong. If would take a villain with no idea of hand reading or concept of EV to bet this river with a wide range given the actions.

Thank you for the answer.

We most likely raise the turn with our non_nut flushes and boats in his eyes, and we call 55-77 only with flushdraw, so our turn calling range looks like
{TT-99, 7d7s, 7h7s, 7s7c, 6d6s, 6h6s, 6s6c, 5d5s, 5h5s, 5s5c, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As7s, As6s, As5s, AsQh, AsJh, AsTh} - total 27 combos on the river 9s.

There we will call with :
{TdTs, ThTs, TsTc, 9d9h, 9d9c, 9h9c, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As7s, As6s, As5s, AsQh, AsJh, AsTh} - total 15 combos, which means he has 43% fold equity, which makes his bet +EV.

Ofcourse i might be wrong with my assumptions, but i think it's okay to make wrong assumptions.
Ofcourse2, it's impossible for villain to calculate this at the table and he may or may not betting the river, given his overall estimations in real time.

So if there is a chance he thinks, that we can slowplaying the nuts on the turn, we can expect him to not bluff his whole bluffing range on the river.
That depends on our overall observations for 200nl regs, so this spot seems to be superclose on the river, i think.

My standart play there is to check/call, because most ppl thinks that they can bluff this board without showdown value, because he knows we have some random % of our range, which we gonna fold.


Sorry about wasting your time, i appreciate your posts.

what's the point of calling with 55 with the FD and then fold the river when you hit the flush anyways, especially when you assume people will bluff.

Your range is really really bad. You can't assume people will raise 100% of their made hands because its impossible for it to be true. Why would people call with AsQh, AsJh, AsTh but fold the other off suited AsX? It's not like having 1 heart gives you more equity vs villain's range. It's ok to make wrong assumptions but making assumptions that has little to no chance of being true is not ok.

Yeah, you're right, there's not a lot of sence in some of my sentences. I'm gonna think about it.

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why do we not raise the turn when we catch our flush OTT?

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Why do we flat and not 3bet with A3o? (Top Right)
When you say it doesn't play well in 3Bet pots please can you expand? Surely if we 3Bet if he calls IP We can bluff at most flops.
I understand your reasoning but if you could expand on it that would be great!

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with his stack so small surely we can bet and call an all in with our AhKx on a 3h Khigh board?

why do we not raise the turn when we catch our flush OTT?

We rep no bluffs so that makes it a very fishy line.

Why do we flat and not 3bet with A3o? (Top Right)
When you say it doesn't play well in 3Bet pots please can you expand? Surely if we 3Bet if he calls IP We can bluff at most flops.
I understand your reasoning but if you could expand on it that would be great!

A3o is like playing poker with 1 hole card since the 3 does very little. We can bluff at most flops ATC including 72o but the problem is more equity we have vs villain's range for continuing the higher EV our bluff is so little pot equity means lower EV.

Less pot equity means we need more FE to be +EV and FE decreases with shallower SPR, basically same concept as why SC are bad to 3bet with.

with his stack so small surely we can bet and call an all in with our AhKx on a 3h Khigh board?

why? if we have 0% equity vs his range b/c even for 1 bb more is lighting 1 bb on fire

Time Link to 00:36:00

why don t cbet K high i want my money back;-)