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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Ansky (Mid Stakes)

Dani, I have a question about hand #1's river spot. Is this a good place for an overbet jam, how about if stacks are a bit deeper even?

There was a thread in HSNL on 2+2 that brewed up a little while back that was discussing that when we get to the river against an opponenent who has a bluff catcher, overbetting big (basically always shove) is our optimal strategy, since the bigger we bet, the more bluffs we can have in our range from a game theory perspective.

In this spot, our opponent's best possible hand is QJ. Given the way we get to the river, is this the spot that we should go for the bomb? With whatever stack size we have, is a bigger bet always the better choice? Is 150 > 100 > 70? If stacks were even deeper, is this a jam spot? What do you think of the idea in general?

personally as someone who has been playing micros lately and dealing with alot more fish i feel like the KT hand is a pretty standard call. alot of passive fish will flat AK here preflop and i see them take lines like this with that hand alot, also i feel he could really easily have K9 or 9T. I'm not saying he never has QJ, but when fish do a stop and go type of line to me usually i feel like its sort of a "middling big strength hand" something that they arent comfortable with checkraising the flop and getting all the money in, but something not week enough that they want to take a passive line with.

also are you playing a session while you are doing the hh review? lol I could be wrong but it seems kind of silly. could just be open tables or someone next to you, but the sounds are kind of distracting to you talking with it beeping every other second

all and all great video though, will be looking forward to your next series - i def prefer the HH reviews over the liveplay videos personally

Hey thanks for looking at the hands I sent.

On the KT hand, I never really considered that SB calling sometimes will give me better pot odds to make a call. That's a good point. Like you said, it just felt like QJ and that's why I ended up folding, but the fact that BB can be doing something random and SB will sometimes overcall, that might sway it more towards a call.

I'm not sure if this is the right way to look at the KQs hand, but I basically just counted his value combos to see how often he has to be bluffing for this to be a call. I'm guessing his river value range looks something like this: Q9s (1), KJo (9), QQ (1), AA (6), KK (3), J8s (4), TT (3). Total of 27 combos. We need to be good here about 30% of the time so he probably only needs around 9 bluffing combos for this to be a call. It seems reasonable that hands like AJo, J7s, etc could potentially be 3 barreling often enough imo.

Dani, I have a question about hand #1's river spot. Is this a good place for an overbet jam, how about if stacks are a bit deeper even?

There was a thread in HSNL on 2+2 that brewed up a little while back that was discussing that when we get to the river against an opponenent who has a bluff catcher, overbetting big (basically always shove) is our optimal strategy, since the bigger we bet, the more bluffs we can have in our range from a game theory perspective.

In this spot, our opponent's best possible hand is QJ. Given the way we get to the river, is this the spot that we should go for the bomb? With whatever stack size we have, is a bigger bet always the better choice? Is 150 > 100 > 70? If stacks were even deeper, is this a jam spot? What do you think of the idea in general?

For the same reasons I stated that I kind of like betting bigger than our hero did on river, I mostly agree with you. Theory wise it is fine, but if in a practical sense there is not a significantly increased FE then you might not need to jam (though it probably is good practically too.)

personally as someone who has been playing micros lately and dealing with alot more fish i feel like the KT hand is a pretty standard call. alot of passive fish will flat AK here preflop and i see them take lines like this with that hand alot, also i feel he could really easily have K9 or 9T. I'm not saying he never has QJ, but when fish do a stop and go type of line to me usually i feel like its sort of a "middling big strength hand" something that they arent comfortable with checkraising the flop and getting all the money in, but something not week enough that they want to take a passive line with.

also are you playing a session while you are doing the hh review? lol I could be wrong but it seems kind of silly. could just be open tables or someone next to you, but the sounds are kind of distracting to you talking with it beeping every other second

all and all great video though, will be looking forward to your next series - i def prefer the HH reviews over the liveplay videos personally

The only thing keeping me from agreeing with you totally is the large river bet size. I think he tends to be a little more polarized on the river when he bets 90 into 110. I think something like 70 is more of what you see when the guy has AK here. That said, any time I am saying something like that it has to be a weighted consideration (as in, I THINK he only bets 75 w/ AK, so I am going to lower it's likelihood in his range here, but not ruling it out). Because of that I still think I click call, also for the random idiot factor.

personally as someone who has been playing micros lately and dealing with alot more fish i feel like the KT hand is a pretty standard call. alot of passive fish will flat AK here preflop and i see them take lines like this with that hand alot, also i feel he could really easily have K9 or 9T. I'm not saying he never has QJ, but when fish do a stop and go type of line to me usually i feel like its sort of a "middling big strength hand" something that they arent comfortable with checkraising the flop and getting all the money in, but something not week enough that they want to take a passive line with.

also are you playing a session while you are doing the hh review? lol I could be wrong but it seems kind of silly. could just be open tables or someone next to you, but the sounds are kind of distracting to you talking with it beeping every other second

all and all great video though, will be looking forward to your next series - i def prefer the HH reviews over the liveplay videos personally

I most certainly am not ever playing a session on the side, I would never do that. It might have been emil playing a session in the office. My apologies if you felt like it took something away from the video.

I'm not sure if this is the right way to look at the KQs hand, but I basically just counted his value combos to see how often he has to be bluffing for this to be a call. I'm guessing his river value range looks something like this: Q9s (1), KJo (9), QQ (1), AA (6), KK (3), J8s (4), TT (3). Total of 27 combos. We need to be good here about 30% of the time so he probably only needs around 9 bluffing combos for this to be a call. It seems reasonable that hands like AJo, J7s, etc could potentially be 3 barreling often enough imo.

You aren't wrong, but just always remember the concept of weighted hands when calculating ranges. He might not always bluff with those hands, might not always play them preflop, etc. Something like QQ, AA, KK, are ALWAYS in his range, but AJo he miiiiiight do something different somewhere (pre, flop, turn, riv, anywhere really).

You aren't wrong, but just always remember the concept of weighted hands when calculating ranges. He might not always bluff with those hands, might not always play them preflop, etc. Something like QQ, AA, KK, are ALWAYS in his range, but AJo he miiiiiight do something different somewhere (pre, flop, turn, riv, anywhere really).

Yeah that's a good point. If he's only 3betting AJo 1/2 the time and not always 3 barreling, then that reduces the combos pretty significantly.

For the same reasons I stated that I kind of like betting bigger than our hero did on river, I mostly agree with you. Theory wise it is fine, but if in a practical sense there is not a significantly increased FE then you might not need to jam (though it probably is good practically too.)

My reasons for betting smaller OTR were that he is usually checking with the intention of folding, so I didn't feel it was necessary to risk anymore. He doesn't really have anything that would make sense to ch/c OTR, maybe like AQ, KQ (but I don't expect this line from villain) and Jx. I guess it makes sense to bet a little bigger because we don't want him to plan to ch/f and then talk himself into a call by betting too small. OTOH, I don't think it's necessary to absolutely bomb it.

OTOH, I don't think it's necessary to absolutely bomb it.

I think I disagree with this. If you get to the river with 260 behind and 128 in the middle on the river, I think it's a jam. I think this is an always shove spot with your entire range on the river.

I'll let Dani explain this more because I don't think I can articulate this as well as he can. On the other hand, I wish we wouldn't even talk about this stuff. Hah.

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Yeah there's not really any point in making a really small button raise in this line-up.

Being relatively 'deeper' by raising small would be more of an advantage if we were trying to make moves on our opponent, but against droolers / weak opponents who we just want to make fundamental mistakes by calling too lightly, it will be more advantageous for us to be able to get stacks in easier or to make bigger turn and river value bets.

I think I disagree with this. If you get to the river with 260 behind and 128 in the middle on the river, I think it's a jam. I think this is an always shove spot with your entire range on the river.

I'll let Dani explain this more because I don't think I can articulate this as well as he can. On the other hand, I wish we wouldn't even talk about this stuff. Hah.

I disagree based on what it represents. Just as Ansky talked about smaller bet sizes repping a hand like AQ here, I think a large bet represents QJ fairly well. If we would overbet jam with QJ, then OK, but if I were villain seeing a 1.5x jam on this river with Jx I would seriously question what he would have that wanted to overbet jam this river for value but didn't want to raise flop or turn.

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BB is loose enough to probably have some K5s/T5s when he's closing the action with two players in the pot already imo.