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Hey guys, played a really interesting hand today.

BB is a fish, playing like 41/0, that's why I flat preflop and on the flop.

MP2 is a solid winning TAG playing 24/22/9. Havn't seen him doing anything strange

Preflop
I flat preflop to give the fish a chance to enter the pot, I will play in position and MP2 is probably opening fairly wide.

Flop
When MP2 raises the fish donkbet I think he has something like a FD,Straightdraw or Jx. Don't really think he's doing this with anything else with me behind him left to act. Once again I flat to get the fish to come along and also because I don't wanna look to strong. With this line I could have some draws, right?

Turn
Fish is gone from the hand. Here I was debating between just calling and raising. Since I have the nut kicker I think he can get it in with some worse Jx and maybe call with some draws? Anyway he jams and I pretty much snapcall, you guys like it ? Would you have played it different ?


Boss, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

MP2: $833.61 (208.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $800 (200 bb)
CO: $348.25 (87.1 bb)
BB: $512.30 (128.1 bb)
MP1: $493.96 (123.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J A
MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $14, Hero calls $14, CO folds, BB calls $10

Flop: ($44) T J J (3 players)
BB bets $12, MP2 raises to $42, Hero calls $42, BB folds

Turn: ($140) 6 (2 players)
MP2 bets $92, Hero raises to $252, MP2 raises to $777.61 and is all-in, Hero calls $492 and is all-in

He would have to be really bad to make this raise on the turn +EV. Basically, you're saying he would be willing to stack off with QJ+. I probably just call down.

You think most players fold KJ/QJ on the turn to my raise?

You think most players fold KJ/QJ on the turn to my raise?

They shouldn't jam those that's for sure. you rep no bluffs and QJ is exactly the same as J2 vs you turn raising/call range.

You have to be good here almost always. Why would MP RR the BB OTF with a made boat? Wouldn't he want hero to join in on the action? This is extremely wet and hits a ton of SD/FD hands BB or hero could have in this case. Why wouldn't he want one of those hands to catch up in this spot? Do you think he is really worried about someone having QJ,KJ, or AJ and hitting a higher boat?

he is not worried about Jx catching up, but he wants to extract value from it as fast as possible. Also, draws will call alot too. And this villain (BB) is probably not folding many draws at all.

If you have an agressive dynamic I think ur line is ok. IDK if it's the case on the site you play (Eurosite?), but as for me, on french websites, regs give usually no credit to turn raises, which makes raising good if they're likely to not fold any hand / shove draws thinking they have FE.
Do you think it could be the case for u? As said above, the standard play for vilain would be only to call w. Jx ; he has to have reasons to think you can get out of line on this spot and overplay weaker hands / draws. If not, I also prefer to call T+R.