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dohdohdoh

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Villain 14/8

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
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BB: $98.50
UTG: $191.70
UTG+1: $100.00
MP: $19.00
Hero (CO): $100.00
BTN: $117.10
SB: $112.50

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with A Spade K Spade
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($28.50) 9 Spade Q Diamond K Club (2 players)
BB bets $12, Hero raises to $24, BB raises to $36, [color=red]Hero ?

Admit the mini-raise is pointless except to insinuate a raise.

Should I raise more on the flop? Do I automatically stack off here?

Posted over 3 years ago

dohdohdoh

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What I meant was 'to insinuate a bluff'....

Posted over 3 years ago

improva

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dohdohdoh

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billyjex

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Flop raise is bad. Sure, you've flopped TPTK, but it's not the greatest TPTK as we're up against a nit who is showing strength.

A 14/8 can 3-bet some random stuff, but you're looking at TT+, AK the majority of the time when he decides to 3-bet there.. a 3-bet % or the amount of hands you have on him would be helpful. On that kind of flop, we're looking for pot control and to try to get to showdown -- JJ and TT will probably call the minraise but we'll probably get a little value out of them by just calling the flop as well.

By raising the flop, and getting 3-bet, you must fold, even despite the minreraise. What hands can he have? Yeah, he's played his hand like a complete donk, but a 14/8 usually is a bad player. He's going to show up with AA/KK/QQ a lot here. I mean, you could call the flop, and hope to god he just gives up if you do have the best hand, but this is the annoyance that comes from making a misguided minraise on the flop here. Keep it more simple IMO.

Posted over 3 years ago

dohdohdoh

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Thanks Billy.

Yes, I did not clearly think of the range of this nit. And you're right - pp's from 10/10 up to AA and AK are the only hands he'd do this with.

I should have folded to the rr, but jammed like a donk and he shows QQ for trips.

When I call the 3-bet pf, I'm kinda making the decision to stack off if the board comes KXX, which is the wrong frame of mind obviously.

Posted over 3 years ago

WickedWie

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You aren't insinuating a bluff here like ever.
Second I would prob 4-bet here preflop in the CO against BB
Third you're toast and should fold to the min 4-bet

Posted over 3 years ago

tubasteve

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do you guys mean inducing a bluff?

also dohdohdoh, i'm very glad to see your posts and help but 100NL hands go in the small stakes forum. Smile

Posted over 3 years ago

dohdohdoh

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OK tuba, I'll drop the NL100 into the small stakes - NL100 just seems to be on the board small/large stakes lol.

Yeah, induce a bluff. I sometimes do the min RR and that seems to get air/2nd pairs fold.

Posted over 3 years ago