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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by threads13 (Mid Stakes)

Given the reads you have on his postflop play and cbetting in general I don't think I'd fault you for calling there. Probably pretty thin either way though, and if he's going to fold enough pre it might be better to keep it simple and avoid making errors where one of you gets on the wrong level and you lose a bunch of money.

Which hand were you referring to here?

JJ is an easy get it in and it's not even close.

T2: I 3b/call 99 here all day long at this table; I'd be checking his positional stats first but I think between our equity against his shoving range and the amount of folds we get we're doing fine.

This could change with reads, but is pretty standard against most SSer's I've been playing with at 25nl.

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that I haven't really researched these spots that well. So, I'll be mostly kind of saying my thoughts aloud while I'm figuring it out. Maybe then I'll be ready to play these spots better later today.

I'm really surprised to see this guy is opening 20%. I only have 1k hands on him so it's necessarily that accurate, but I just assumed he was only opening like 10%. It's fairly unlikely he's opening that tight given our stats. I guess my perception of these dude's ranges is just way off.

What sort of range do you see guys ship here? I would expect them to mostly shove something like TT+/AQ+. If that's the case it may be incorrect to a call a shove which makes me wonder if it's the best hand to be 3-betting. We need about 40% equity to call a shove and we only have 37% with 99. That would make a 3bet/calling range be about TT+,AK. If he's reacting to the 3bet in a fold or shove manner(that's what I'd expect) 99 really is no better than 32o. I think we should then have a 3-bet/fold range of AQo-ATo, KQo, KJo. Those hands have blockers to his shove range. That would leave us fairly balanced so we aren't folding too much to his 4-bets. We'd be 3-betting him with an 8% range here.

If we find that he's being pretty nitty here, we should unbalance our 3-betting range and to that we should add in a few more big card hands with blockers to 3bet/fold but I don't think we use 99. We'd probably add in the rest of our offsuit broadways (QJo, QTo, KTo, JTo). We don't want to go crazy 3-betting him with a 20% range here. I think flatting something like 99-77 and suited broadways is probably a pretty good strategy. We can't really flat that many PPs as they won't have enough SD value to call pre and the set value isn't good enough because of stack size.

What do you think?

PS... if he was 30bb deep I think 99 becomes a 3b/call.

Which hand were you referring to here?

Think it was a T6cc bvb iirc

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that I haven't really researched these spots that well. So, I'll be mostly kind of saying my thoughts aloud while I'm figuring it out. Maybe then I'll be ready to play these spots better later today.

I'm really surprised to see this guy is opening 20%. I only have 1k hands on him so it's necessarily that accurate, but I just assumed he was only opening like 10%. It's fairly unlikely he's opening that tight given our stats. I guess my perception of these dude's ranges is just way off.

What sort of range do you see guys ship here? I would expect them to mostly shove something like TT+/AQ+. If that's the case it may be incorrect to a call a shove which makes me wonder if it's the best hand to be 3-betting. We need about 40% equity to call a shove and we only have 37% with 99. That would make a 3bet/calling range be about TT+,AK. If he's reacting to the 3bet in a fold or shove manner(that's what I'd expect) 99 really is no better than 32o. I think we should then have a 3-bet/fold range of AQo-ATo, KQo, KJo. Those hands have blockers to his shove range. That would leave us fairly balanced so we aren't folding too much to his 4-bets. We'd be 3-betting him with an 8% range here.

If we find that he's being pretty nitty here, we should unbalance our 3-betting range and to that we should add in a few more big card hands with blockers to 3bet/fold but I don't think we use 99. We'd probably add in the rest of our offsuit broadways (QJo, QTo, KTo, JTo). We don't want to go crazy 3-betting him with a 20% range here. I think flatting something like 99-77 and suited broadways is probably a pretty good strategy. We can't really flat that many PPs as they won't have enough SD value to call pre and the set value isn't good enough because of stack size.

What do you think?

PS... if he was 30bb deep I think 99 becomes a 3b/call.

I just crunched the numbers. I think I would assign him a wider range than TT+, AQ+ (which we have 38% against), but I 3b/bluff these guys more often than your regular 100bb regular; I don't know if they ever adjust but I do see them get it in kind of light at least against me.

Anyways, if he opens to $6 and we 3bet to $16 we are just -ev against TT+/AQ+ and just +ev against 88+/AQ+. I also see alot of AJs type stuff here though and sometimes worse, so I think I would still go for it w/o reads.

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Oh, and definitely disagree with 99 not having enough SD value. These guys don't barrel.

I just crunched the numbers. I think I would assign him a wider range than TT+, AQ+ (which we have 38% against), but I 3b/bluff these guys more often than your regular 100bb regular; I don't know if they ever adjust but I do see them get it in kind of light at least against me.

Anyways, if he opens to $6 and we 3bet to $16 we are just -ev against TT+/AQ+ and just +ev against 88+/AQ+. I also see alot of AJs type stuff here though and sometimes worse, so I think I would still go for it w/o reads.

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Oh, and definitely disagree with 99 not having enough SD value. These guys don't barrel.

Oh I didn't mean 99 doesn't have enough... I meant 22-66.

Right, so maybe 3b/call 99+,AQs.

Think it was a T6cc bvb iirc

Ah I think with the right postflop reads it becomes pretty easy to call. If I can call that hand instead of 3-bet that gives me more hands to +EV play. Then my overall games is more +EV.

I'm at no shortage of hands that can 3-bet.

Oh I didn't mean 99 doesn't have enough... I meant 22-66.

Right, so maybe 3b/call 99+,AQs.

Yeah that's right around the range I would take there.

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when u flatcall with ATs what's the plan if someone squeeze? std fold i suppose.
In the long term do u think that flatcall with ATs from cutoff is EV+?

thx

when u flatcall with ATs what's the plan if someone squeeze? std fold i suppose.
In the long term do u think that flatcall with ATs from cutoff is EV+?

thx

I'd often fold, but vs a squeeze happy play and with position I'd flat.

Yeah, I think it's +EV. I wouldn't go much worse than this in the CO, though.

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Just wondering if its PT4 you are using?

Just wondering if its PT4 you are using?

Yeah.

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You could take a note away from table on a notepad or whatever to filter for villains bet vs missed cbet. That way you dont end up a month later maybe figuring out his game by taking all these individual notes in game. You have it as a reminder straight after the session. Eventually after saving the filters for a bunch of spots its only a few clicks away to find whatever you need to on a player.

Ah I think with the right postflop reads it becomes pretty easy to call. If I can call that hand instead of 3-bet that gives me more hands to +EV play. Then my overall games is more +EV.

I'm at no shortage of hands that can 3-bet.

Villain opened SB , he had 30% steal , you had T6s. I struggle BvB in constructing how wide of a range i should flat , 30% steal bvb is somewhat on the tight side , without reads that might give us a gameplan vs villain is there any way to construct a range ? i might question hands like A9o , 98o , T7s , K9s , what post flop reads would make T6s a pretty easy call ?

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Wow your 4bet sizing is really small here , could you tell me a little about that. My standard is 22bb here and 23 / 24bb oop. At 100nl most regs 3bet to $10 oop and i make it $22 , your sizing would make it $18. I guess with AA we arent afraid of getting called oop but i think i fear villains would start calling to this size , if they fold i guess its a much cheaper 4bet bluff. Is this your standard , do your 4bets get called much ? should i be making it smaller ?