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***** Hand History for Game 498611673 ***** (Party)
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, January 27, 08:01:55 ET 2012
Table BBJEnetVip3(NOCAP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: piv-cyrusdonk ( $313.07 USD )
Seat 2: HERO ( $413.80 USD )
Seat 3: brp-JhonnyWravo ( $435.57 USD )
Seat 4: lpr-pepout ( $75.60 USD )
Seat 5: uqp-tarallo72 ( $645.50 USD )
Seat 6: VILLAIN ( $733.07 USD )
lpr-pepout posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
uqp-tarallo72 posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc Ac ]
VILLAIN raises [$12.00 USD]
piv-cyrusdonk folds
HERO raises [$36.00 USD]
brp-JhonnyWravo folds
lpr-pepout folds
uqp-tarallo72 folds
VILLAIN calls [$24.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 8d, 3h ]
VILLAIN checks
HERO bets [$45.00 USD]
VILLAIN calls [$45.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
VILLAIN checks
HERO bets [$98.00 USD]
VILLAIN calls [$98.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
VILLAIN bets [$171.02 USD]
HERO ????

Notes on this opponent:
weak reg
doesn t recognise bad spots to cbet - very high cbet 94%
too wide isolation against very stationy players. 62s CO

VILLAIN STATS:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/villainstats.png/

I was so confused in that spot. It is worth mentioning that I am shooting these stakes.

I mean, does he ever shows up with the nuts? I doubt it.

makes way more sense for him to have the nuts than air. If villain is calling with intention to donk every river with busted draw he might as well just jam the turn. Your bet sizing is way too big on flop and turn.

Did you ever put villain on a range for preflop, flop and turn?

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MP: $313.07
Hero (CO): $413.80
BTN: $435.57
SB: $75.60
BB: $645.50
UTG: $733.07

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is CO with K A
UTG raises to $12, 1 fold, Hero raises to $36, 3 folds, UTG calls $24

Flop: ($78.00) Q 8 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $45.00, UTG calls $45

Turn: ($168.00) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $98.00, UTG calls $98

River: ($364.00) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $171.02

Final Pot: $364.00

Niman Kenkre from Bluefire uses xC xC donk lines for value with stuff like top pair when draws miss as it gets herocalled. At least I'm pretty sure I've seen him do it and explain it in a video, so good chances he saw the same video and is doing this for value. I'd fold and take a note.

But I think blah asked a very good question that's likely way more important than knowing the correct play in some weird spot.

Yep, that's true. I dont think in terms of ranges enough.
I also agree that my flop and turn sizing is slightly too big.

Preflop range:
Taking into account that he is a weaker reg I give him quite a lot of hands he thinks he has implied odds with.
22-QQ, suited connectors: 65s-KQs, AQ, AK. Not sure if he is capable of slowplaying AA KK here.

FLOP: he certainly calls with all flushdraws, although he MIGHT raise/get it in with JhTh , Th9h.
Also QQ, 88, 33. JJ TT calls. (maybe AA KK - not a lot of combinations)

TURN: He might still call JJ TT, (maybe AA KK - not a lot of combinations). x/R turn w flushdraws certainly makes more sense than leading the river.

RIVER: Leading boats doesn t make sense here, as I might 3 barrel missed FD, AK or AA KK. HOWEVER he might do that - but wouldn t he shove there?
Grindcore, U think he is capable of such a thin value bet as he Cbets 94%? Or do you think he even watchas any coaching videos not older than 3years old? ( as PFR he plays pretty fit or fold turn)

Grindcore, U think he is capable of such a thin value bet as he Cbets 94%? Or do you think he even watchas any coaching videos not older than 3years old? ( as PFR he plays pretty fit or fold turn)

I never said anything about a thin vbet.

Yep, that's true. I dont think in terms of ranges enough.
I also agree that my flop and turn sizing is slightly too big.

Preflop range:
Taking into account that he is a weaker reg I give him quite a lot of hands he thinks he has implied odds with.
22-QQ, suited connectors: 65s-KQs, AQ, AK. Not sure if he is capable of slowplaying AA KK here.

FLOP: he certainly calls with all flushdraws, although he MIGHT raise/get it in with JhTh , Th9h.
Also QQ, 88, 33. JJ TT calls. (maybe AA KK - not a lot of combinations)

TURN: He might still call JJ TT, (maybe AA KK - not a lot of combinations). x/R turn w flushdraws certainly makes more sense than leading the river.

RIVER: Leading boats doesn t make sense here, as I might 3 barrel missed FD, AK or AA KK. HOWEVER he might do that - but wouldn t he shove there?
Grindcore, U think he is capable of such a thin value bet as he Cbets 94%? Or do you think he even watchas any coaching videos not older than 3years old? ( as PFR he plays pretty fit or fold turn)

What happened to KQs and AQ calling the flop? They could easily call turn and lead river here.

once again +1 to adjusting sizing on flop. Not sure if like the trn bet considering the card and this villain. What are you flding out on trn besides FD? You think a fish would x/c that flop w 99 and x/f the trn when board pairs? The river is a very easy fold IMO