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Whats the worst hand you would value bet the river with in this spot?
Whats the worst hand you think villain should be betting when you check the river?
Are you value betting the river on a blank, like a 2 of hearts? I'm guessing there are enough Jx and hero calls because the draws missed to make this a valuebet right?
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i think its funny you were able to get away with a small size like that, as i was hearing your thinking i was worried his stack may be a little small for this, if he was 100BB deep rather then 50BB would you be making it smaller or bigger here?
heh yeah, being able to go small there is partly a function of his stack size, but a big factor is just how much air he has there. but stack sizes are really nice for this because he really can't do anything w/out risking a huge % of his stack w/ complete air..there's just no way he has like 86s and decides he's gonna 3b or jam there imo. so yeah if he starts the hand w/ 100bbs or w/e i would go a bit bigger since he has a lot more room to decide im FOS and 3b bluff.
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Hi CC - what do you think about your sizing here? If I were in your shoes and I was trying to rep (or had) a value hand surely you would go bigger so you could shove river without overbetting? The logic is sound but as he was short it would seem kinda strange if I were in his shoes.
thanks in advance
PS - I read your response to the previous post so you don't need to re-write that bit :-)
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Hi CC - what do you think about your sizing here? If I were in your shoes and I was trying to rep (or had) a value hand surely you would go bigger so you could shove river without overbetting? The logic is sound but as he was short it would seem kinda strange if I were in his shoes.
thanks in advance
PS - I read your response to the previous post so you don't need to re-write that bit :-)
well it's really just that his range is sooo air heavy and his stack is such that even if he is suspicious about my sizing, there's really very little he can do about it. he may be like "ugggh he's not repping a whole lot and his sizing is pretty small..but i have 87o what am i gonna do..gotta just fold."
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Whats the worst hand you would value bet the river with in this spot?
Whats the worst hand you think villain should be betting when you check the river?
Are you value betting the river on a blank, like a 2 of hearts? I'm guessing there are enough Jx and hero calls because the draws missed to make this a valuebet right?
Worst hand i vbet is prob KQ on that river. The worst hand I think villain SHOULD be betting on river is an interesting question actually. lemme think about that one a little bit..
edit: and yes im def betting a 2h river for the reasons u stated
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the J-9 hand in the bb
vs a small blind open what would your typ flatting range be?? and what type of hands would you lean towards 3betting rather than flating??
just relized that i havent been taking advantange of this situation very much at all.
don't wanna completely give away my range but will give some examples. i like flatting hands as weak as T8o, J8o, even 97o, 87o, T7s, Q8s. i prefer 3betting the low SCs and suited one gappers like 54s, 64s etc, and then also some bigger suited non connected hands like J7s, Q6s, K3s. if villain is the type to call lots of 3bets then u wanna be 3betting some of your big card hands for value, i.e. KJ/KQ/AJ etc.
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great vid chipchucker
I have a question about the KJ hand. How would you play a K or J turn ? would you raise it too?
thanks, glad u enjoyed it 
so the vacuum play is def def def to just call on K or J turns given that he has a tonnnnn of air on the turn there and will be pretty damn likely to barrel river as well since our range looks so weak. so honestly, that's what id be doing almost all of the time. theory wise, it's prob good to c/r like KQ there esp if he's got all the suited kings pf and like K7o/K8o because there'll be a decent amt of worse hands that can call, and ur line looks slightly suspicious. c/ring sets on turn some of the time also seems good from a theory perspective since u have like the nuts and there are more Kx combos he can potentially have since ur not blocking any of those (unlike when u have KJ/KQ). but all that being said, i think u can get away w/ being unbalanced here for a while w/out people really catching on/adjusting for it.
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Worst hand i vbet is prob KQ on that river. The worst hand I think villain SHOULD be betting on river is an interesting question actually. lemme think about that one a little bit..
edit: and yes im def betting a 2h river for the reasons u stated
so worst hand i think villain should be betting on river (assuming sb is a tough player) is QJ. the reason being that a good player in the sb here isn't going to be c/cing very often at all. this should be evidenced by the fact that i have a pretty decent hand with which to c/c (since we basically have the nut "non ace" since im highly discounting QT/KQ since those check back river like always) and im not comfortable doing it. so he's very likely going to get folds or get c/shoved on. the only conceivable hands i could c/c w/ here are like AT/AK and id be pretty likely to just bet those for value and try to get called by Q9/QT/KQ.
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