Ansky
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I could be way off here (so jus say if i am and ill be done with it) cuz i dont play these stakes or anything close
but
to me at least it seems crazy to fold.
he bet utg u flatted utg+1 with kk (top of ur range and way underrepped)
he then relinquishes lead on flop and c/c twice.
so to fold realistically he can only have j9 qt or a flush for value that beats u.
qt ud have to give him credit for opening utg to over 3x (so probably can only have qts). then c/c after being pfr (which he would do some percentage of the time forsure but not every time with the 3 combos of qts).
j9, again, hed have to have c/c rather than bet which (to me at least) seems weak and something he forsure wouldnt do every time he has j9 on that flop.
and flushes, again, ud have to give him credit for givin up lead and c/c twice.
so his narrow value range thats ahead of kk is made even more narrow by not playing them in the most standard way possible (or in a way he would 100p of the time)
throwing in even a few random hands that make sense like kqhh or aqhh and with some random bluffs seems like his value range:hands u beat ratio is jus too low to fold.
plus ur hand is somewhere near the top of ur betting-twice-when-checked-to range
Being at the top of my range is not relevant if I believe that he is extremely polarized, and he either jams better for value, or is bluffing with worse.
I'd be closer to calling here with something like AQ, especially AQ w/ Ah.
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Top left you c/c 44 on 875 rb board vs a 1/2 pot cbet. Why do you think this is a profitable c/c? Sure, he only bets 1/2 pot but our gutshot is fairly weak and has bad implied odds, I can see a lot of barrels from him given that your range for c/c'ing flop looks capped and even if he does play str8 forward, almost all of his hands have at least 2 overcards and therefore very decent equity vs 44.
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Ansky
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Top left you c/c 44 on 875 rb board vs a 1/2 pot cbet. Why do you think this is a profitable c/c? Sure, he only bets 1/2 pot but our gutshot is fairly weak and has bad implied odds, I can see a lot of barrels from him given that your range for c/c'ing flop looks capped and even if he does play str8 forward, almost all of his hands have at least 2 overcards and therefore very decent equity vs 44.
You are right, check raising is better.
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Ansky
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quick question, what are you doing say with his hand(76s) oop on the k87 board?
do you call two streets or are you turning your hand into a bluff somewhere in the hand?
Turn call is questionable, as is preflop. Can't really see where he could bluff, maybe c/r flop.
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donkrx
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is this a good or bad thing?
It's good, but not always......... like I've watched some of whitelime's old videos recently and they can get pretty boring so these done by you are quite entertaining and keep my attention, but sometimes its harder to process what you're saying (or just gets too hectic) unless I'm already on that level / know the logic behind it. Not sure what I'm suggesting but that's my comment on it.
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