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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Hielko (Mid Stakes)

Nice video, you're explanations are really good

What is the origin of the term god mode?

@Snarble5: First person shooters I think .

@Buby2132: It's not his job to make money for people that replicate w/o thought & understanding the players at their limits. Really, the only reason he needs to back up his move is "I know how often he has to fold, and I think he folds at least that often." It's not exactly complicated, especially when regulars that high will probably open alot of Ax/Kx in the CO and will use them for a 4bet bluff range.

Of course. But people do things without understanding WHY they are doing it, with their justification being they saw it in a video and it worked.

This is always going to be true, people mis-apply advice and information all the time, in all aspects of life.

@Buby2132: It's not his job to make money for people that replicate w/o thought & understanding the players at their limits. Really, the only reason he needs to back up his move is "I know how often he has to fold, and I think he folds at least that often." It's not exactly complicated, especially when regulars that high will probably open alot of Ax/Kx in the CO and will use them for a 4bet bluff range.

Its not hard to understand that people should not replicate exactly what is done on a video, but they do. Exactly like Joe said in the post above. People mis-apply things. And i think in this video, without it being highlighted, players who dont think for themselves may mis-apply it.

Secondly, your whole argument for 'i know how often he needs to fold' does make sense on level 1. But we dont know and cannot calculate our FE or anything else. We can calculate simply we have around 25% vs a standard calling range (TT+, AQo+). What is he is a fish? And calls with K5o??? We can have the best hand.
We have 3 hands on this player who bought in full...thats it. I see fish buying in full all the time. We can do rough mathematical calcs to see what we roughly have, but cannot do anything more. As we dont know him.

Im an unknown, can you tell me exactly how often i am going to 4bet bluff you or anyone else for that matter??? You dont know my tendancies, or my perception of other unknowns. You cannot calculate exactly how often i am going to fold without having reads and a bit of insight into my game.

lol. I ramble a lot.

Im an unknown, can you tell me exactly how often i am going to 4bet bluff you or anyone else for that matter??? You dont know my tendancies, or my perception of other unknowns. You cannot calculate exactly how often i am going to fold without having reads and a bit of insight into my game.

The good thing about being in that spot is that you would also have no reads against the person shoving. This alone is a good amount of fold equity.

Not being able to calculate the FE accurately does not make it a bad play. I actually think this is part of the line between small winners and big winners, at any stakes but especially midstakes+, in that the better players are almost always making very good decisions based on feel and assumption. That does not make them a "feel player", because they're doing the maths where applicable also.

Incidentally, this isn't an attack on you Buby2132, but I wanted to use your quote to springboard into the topic.

The good thing about being in that spot is that you would also have no reads against the person shoving. This alone is a good amount of fold equity.

Not being able to calculate the FE accurately does not make it a bad play. I actually think this is part of the line between small winners and big winners, at any stakes but especially midstakes+, in that the better players are almost always making very good decisions based on feel and assumption. That does not make them a "feel player", because they're doing the maths where applicable also.

Incidentally, this isn't an attack on you Buby2132, but I wanted to use your quote to springboard into the topic.

Im not suggesting that we should never 5bet bluff shove in poker and that assumptions should always be backed up with reads, just incase people think im being that dumb. Hielko is an established winning player who knows what he is doing. (Or is on god mode constantly. hehe). I am bringing this up as so many players will watch this and go...oh, he 3bet/5bet shoved that because he was unknown and assumed the guy was bluffing...maybe i should try that. I could link MANY threads over the past few weeks where ppl have said they have tried something because they saw it in a video once (namely Apex Predator) and didnt understand the concept properly which led to them spewing.

I felt the explanation was a bit too dry and didnt really cover why he did it. After all, it is going to be a high variance play, hence why i am bringing this up.

Doing something because they understand the concept will mark the line between small winners and big winners.

Buby; sure, there are a lot of unknowns here, but that's poker. Everything about this player screams that he is a regular. Not only the full buy in or the lack of a low Stars VIP-status, but also his 4bet sizing is exactly what you expect from an aggressive regular. His 4bet sizing alone is already reason enough to be almost certain that he's a reg (I didn't even feel the need to check for example how many tables he was playing).

And yes, it's a few hands but we do have some useful clues that it's a 4bet bluff here (the fact that he didn't fold really provides information - it's called Bayesian inference in statistics). So why should our default action be a fold? Sure we can be totally wrong, but all the arguments you offer can also used against folding. It could easily be an equally big mistake.

But I totally agree with you on copying stuff from a video, randomly shoving K7s against 4bets is probably going to end bad. Thanks for the feedback, and certainly agree that my explanation while playing was brief at best.

Nice video, you're explanations are really good

Good to hear

Time Link to 00:15:04

Can you please explain your reasoning for wanting to checkraise the turn here, and your decision to bet the river?

nice, thx hielko!

Ok so since 5-bet bluffing AI with K7s is standard there, do we do it with our whole 3-betting range?
Or is the K blocker the key here?

Can you please explain your reasoning for wanting to checkraise the turn here, and your decision to bet the river?

Turn; basically I can rep a lot by check/raising, I do have some equity, and villain basically has never better than turned TP or flushdraw. Goal of the riverbet is to get him to fold small PP's, think that's a big part of his range that's better than A-high.

Ok so since 5-bet bluffing AI with K7s is standard there, do we do it with our whole 3-betting range?
Or is the K blocker the key here?

In this specific spot I might also be tempted to shove stuff with less blocker value, but would certainly not shove random crap. Being suited and having a high card is pretty good for our equity when called.

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Hey Hielko,could you explain why you think calling in this spot is,as you said not terrible?I mean how much of his range can you really beat?i actually felt a small amount of pain when you made the call