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Villain is a 32/23/1,9 with 3B 9,5 pct. and 4B range 2,4. pct. He opens 77 pct. from button! Folds to 3B 68 percent.

Hero is 30/24/2,9 and 3B 7 percent.

Metagame: I have been 3 betting him relentless but he doesn't seem to open any less from but.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $4(BB) Replayer
Hero ($832)
BB ($442)
CO ($489)
BTN ($442)

Dealt to Hero J T

fold, BTN raises to $8, Hero raises to $30, fold, BTN calls $22

FLOP ($64) 3 3 7

Hero bets $32, BTN calls $32

TURN ($128) 3 3 7 6

Hero bets $80, BTN calls $80

RIVER ($288) 3 3 7 6 2

[color=red]Hero bets $144,

At the time I was hoping that he was on a busted FD or that he could fold a small pair. Thats my reasoning for betting the river. I thought that my line did look strong and furthermore I had a feeling that he was just floating me given our history. I guess that feeling was making me bet. So I bet hoping for a fold.

But when I think about I am not sure if any pair is folding here, and I am not sure if hands like AQo and AJo is folding either.

How do you like this river bet? Feel free to comment on the hole line as well....

If you've 3bet someone a lot and they finally take a stand, get a dream board for any pair do you think he's looking to fold when turn and river brick?

Or he's a bad player who can't fold 55, shrug.

I think OB turn and shove river would be very good.

FD's are a small part of his range to begin with + he is raising a certain percantage of his nut FD on the flop or even on the turn given how weak ur range looks like.

i know this spot all too well, u think he should really think about it and fold here. and then he calls. i would honestly look ofr a hand with better equity/board to 3barrel him, also busted fd make people call a lot on the river.
theres also a decent chance if youve been 3betting him a lot that he playsQQ-AA this way and never folds on the river.

This spot is highly player dependent and if you expect him to fold a decent amount of pocket pairs and A high type hands (if he calls 2barrels with Ax), its fine. But the truth is that a lot of player will call you on the river whenever they have showdown value which means that you are just burning money.
By the way, he doesnt have that many busted FD´s in his range as he will be raising them very often on the flop/turn.
Without more information, I´d give up on the river and expect him to fold most of his floats to your second barrel.

This spot is highly player dependent and if you expect him to fold a decent amount of pocket pairs and A high type hands (if he calls 2barrels with Ax), its fine. But the truth is that a lot of player will call you on the river whenever they have showdown value which means that you are just burning money.
By the way, he doesnt have that many busted FD´s in his range as he will be raising them very often on the flop/turn.
Without more information, I´d give up on the river and expect him to fold most of his floats to your second barrel.

I mostly agree with this. Whatever he called the turn with though unless it's a busted FD he's not folding. He should of folded Ax or small pp etc to your second barrel if he can hand read. On the river when all the draws missed he's got more reason to call especially given your small bet size.

I don't think it is a bad idea to XF the flop. With your wide perceived 3betting range I doubt villain is going to fold any bluff catchers on any street.. and he is also likely to play back at you... Your hand is pretty much junk on that flop.. so XF.

i know this spot all too well, u think he should really think about it and fold here. and then he calls.

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Yeah that leveling thing is really hard to figure out sometime. If I were him I would think that I had a big pair. It just doesn't work out that way sometimes.

I don't think it is a bad idea to XF the flop. With your wide perceived 3betting range I doubt villain is going to fold any bluff catchers on any street.. and he is also likely to play back at you... Your hand is pretty much junk on that flop.. so XF.

XF = means the same as a snap fold or something like that, right?

In the end villain thought a lot and folded. I am still curious of what he had.

XF = means the same as a snap fold or something like that, right?

X=check, B=bet, F=fold, R=raise, C=call

I don't think it is a bad idea to XF the flop. With your wide perceived 3betting range I doubt villain is going to fold any bluff catchers on any street.. and he is also likely to play back at you... Your hand is pretty much junk on that flop.. so XF.

qft

X=check, B=bet, F=fold, R=raise, C=call

I really need to step up on the pokerslang. There is one more now. QFT means?

http://www.google.dk/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=qft