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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by whitelime (Mid Stakes)

Just different people. The guy who was pissed, was pissed because every other video site makes just these types of videos. The difference between Deuces and the others is that there's a lot of what ifs, team videos, etc. This series isn't unique, and that's Deuces biggest selling point (along with the no DRM and 7day trial, which are amazing). So since he's had accounts at other sites, he sees this as just more of the same.

Anyone else who's upset, is upset because they're the type that need a lot of things going on to keep their attention, as opposed to the happy fellows who can stay focused while there's so much dead time.

Personally, if there was a magic redo button, and it could make the series better for both parties, I think it would be a sporadic theme for the series. This one is just straight up a NL holdem video at certain stakes with no real focal point. Every other video site does that, and I think videos without a focal point don't really give the author much to discuss.

I think the first video was pretty amazing, this second one seemed a little lackluster to me, but it was probably just the situations you ended up in. I'll admit that I am the type of person who gets distracted easily and do have a little trouble maintaining focus on these videos. It's not unbearable, but outside of Jfish videos (which are incredibly hard to watch just due to my nature) this is the only series that I've encountered this issue with. I have a rakeback free subscription to leggo poker, and I've noticed this problem with their stuff too. Just no direction to anything, just random playing with a walk through by the player.

Truly though, I think my lack of focus is more of a personal thing than anything else, and it's probably the same issue with the other two guys. Despite all of that, even with the silence I think the first video in this series is probably the best video on this entire site. I think if half the members here weren't members of the Cult of Krantz*, and he didn't talk the entire video Lightsabers would probably receive the same type of feedback. I think for you especially, not having a focal point when making your video gives you less topics of discussion, and with a theme for the series, or focus before going into each individual video, this series could have been much better.

*I am a member of the Cult of Krantz

Whitelime,

Your videos rank in the top 5 on my list and I'm a member of three different training sites. You're calm, well-spoken, and very thorough about describing your thought process. No need to entertain in the dead spots. In fact often in the dead spots you look to fill the time by talking about hands that other players made. Many video producers don't do this. The 'dead spots' fit both the content of the video and also fit your personality. And so I wouldn't change a thing, other than making the video longer. The '88' and 'AJ' hands were quite well explained and executed.

Thanks for the great content,

Madfish

Same issues as last week, it seems like you really don't wanna be doing these videos. If that's the case, spare us both our time and yours, I'd rather see someone that wants to do these and wants to share information.

Thac seriously, wtf is that attitude man, you got your membership for free, sure this vid isnt the greatest ever made but theres no need to complain in this manner about something you got for free, dont get how such a competent mod on 2p2 can pull this kinda bs here.

I like the fact there these videos aren't filled with talk. JFish has a similar style and it allows me to think critically about some of Hero's moves and I think it's very helpful. I do think that you should four table though.

Also you should use auto reload on FTP

wow I scrolled down to the comments because I expected there to be heaps of praise. I really can't believe some of these posts. This was absolutely one of the better NL vids to be found online anywhere.

yeah, harsh criticism is one thing, but to suggest that making a video is a bother to him is completely unfair. I'm pretty sure none of us would be making these if we didn't actually want to. we're not getting rich doing it, and we're giving out information to the masses. we're doing it because we genuinely want to. to suggest that any of us are doing it because we have to is about the worst insult you could give us (or at least it would be to me).

it's really, really hard to play poker plus talk about what you're doing, plus talk when FTP isn't providing you with much to talk about. people like krantz and FWF really have a special ability to just talk and play. but that's not the only video type you can learn from. there are less fireworks than in a krantz video, but honestly this is probably closer to a style that most msnl players should play. i really think anyone who's given up on this series is making a big mistake. i've watched the whitelime vs krantz videos and have talked some poker with him, and i can guarantee that there is a lot we can all learn from him. if you don't like dead air time, do what i do skip ahead during those points.

Whitelime,

Your videos rank in the top 5 on my list and I'm a member of three different training sites. You're calm, well-spoken, and very thorough about describing your thought process. No need to entertain in the dead spots. In fact often in the dead spots you look to fill the time by talking about hands that other players made. Many video producers don't do this. The 'dead spots' fit both the content of the video and also fit your personality. And so I wouldn't change a thing, other than making the video longer. The '88' and 'AJ' hands were quite well explained and executed.

Thanks for the great content,

Madfish

These are exactly my thoughts. i like the video. keep up the good work.

Amil,

I know this is kind of nitty. About 24 min in UTG opens and you flat J8cc next to act. I don't really like this play, and even at 1 2 (which I venture is less aggro than 3 6), I think you are going to get squeezed a fair bit as well. With bad position against other potential players, and a UTG range that probably has you in bad shape, I don't see a lot of merit in this play. Am I missing something?

I usually love your vids but there was just so much dead time in this one. One possible improvement is to make a really long seassions across 3-6 tables, and do the commenting afterwards. Then you would get lots of history against some regs and could talk about ajustments you would make against specific opponents.
The other way to avoid dead time would be to choose a topic you would like to discuss before you sit down and fill the holes in the vid with your thoughts on that subject.

The dead time is usually when I'm not involved in a hand. Anything in specific you want to hear about in these spots?

There is one kind of video/teachings that I can't really find anywhere and that is how you play the blinds. You get some clues here and there but there doesn't seem to exist "the optimal" way to play from the blinds. It's almost like good poker players just play by feel but there must be some way that you are capable of reaching the decision you are.

So blinds situations would been really appreciated and also ´new´for the poker market. I also want the answer to "are a good player capable of making profit from the blinds?", and I haven't found any conclusive on this yet. [My guess is that good players can make a profit from the blinds just by going down 2-3 levels, so this should mean that I should be able to make profit from the blinds even at $5-$10 and similar]

I would also want to know your psychology, how is your thought process. [Even if you said yourself most of it is second nature so hard to really hear yourself out, if that made any sense ]



Then to the other posters:
We are watching these videos to learn how to win money at poker and if we only want to watch hands going down between good players then sit down and watch "high stakes poker".
When you are watching a video to learn new things that can take your game to next level then you expect to be teached some new concepts or new ways of thinking in a specific situation. This is why video training usually creates very poor results [realize that CR has 10k+ members and it's just a very small part of those that really makes good money at poker]

This is also why I really love the video's at DC because you can always feel that the players really want us the students to get better and make more money at the tables. Also they are using new ways to give us the information when I think they also have realized that there are very few live-poker-videos that really will make you to a better player. [Unless you already have the fundamental psychology]

BTW - I use CR as example just because they are the biggest at the market for live-poker-videos. They also have a lot of good videos that really can help your game but the question is, how many hours do you need to explain all the mayor concepts a player need to win at the higher stakes?

I seriously dont get the major hate on this video I understand there are pauses but thats due to a lack of action more than commentary

Emil, maybe if you could expand on the tendencies of the regs and how you would expliot that in the long run it would be great, also an idea for future videos is record yourself on 4 tables, and then record the audio afterwards pausing at interesting spots to explain your thought process and plays, im a member of cardrunners and the recent stinger PLO and cts 5-10 vids have been done this way and recieved great reviews, hope this helps.

I seriously dont get the major hate on this video I understand there are pauses but thats due to a lack of action more than commentary.

qft

nice video

Hey guys,

Just wanted to chime in to let you all know that while a lot of these episodes have been recorded, we're definitely listening to what you guys are saying. I'm preparing another version of this video right now which I'll release on Sunday (I'm leaving for the next two days otherwise I'd put it up right away) called Episode 2 Redux. This is testing a new idea I have for how to deal with videos that have some dead air time while there's not much going on, but the hands *might* still be relevant. The problem with cutting out dead air out of these videos is that you guys miss the opportunity to ask questions about hands that may be interesting to you even though the author didn't necessarily find much to say about them, or just miss out on relevant history that is potentially useful later in matches (this is especially true in HU matches but I think also true in 6max games).

So what I'm doing is testing out some editing magic to *try* to provide the best of both worlds. This is a video that will speed up to 200% playback speed during hands that aren't commented on, then go back to normal speeds during commentary. It will only be sped up during longer (30s+) silences which obviously we'll try to avoid as much as possible, but since a lot of these videos are recorded already, it may help improve your feelings about those videos without stripping away a lot of the value you get from this sort of video -- having the opportunity to sweat a player like Emil in the moment and learn what he does in certain situations.

While we're going to try to continue to improve on our ability to provide in the moment commentary, Josh is right with his comments -- this stuff is HARD to do sometimes and it's not necessarily indicative of our level of commitment when there's a lot of silence. That said we owe you guys the best, and we're going to commit to it in whatever way possible.

Please check this video out and let me know what you think of the format. I think it is a huge improvement because you can speed up the playback without actually missing any of the commentary (which is the disadvantage to trying to skip through a video like this).

There really seems to be a lot of polarization on this video so I'm working hard to come up with a format that is as valuable as possible to as many of you as we can help. I'll repost this post when I put up the new video -- please let me know what you think of it as a format because after watching one video sped up (Hoodie Wars #3) during moments of slow commentary (in this case, both players were just folding a ton preflop for a while), I felt it was quite a significant improvement.

holla,
Rob

I'd like to hear your preflop thoughts on the 'jd8d' hand also.

Amil,

I know this is kind of nitty. About 24 min in UTG opens and you flat J8cc next to act. I don't really like this play, and even at 1 2 (which I venture is less aggro than 3 6), I think you are going to get squeezed a fair bit as well. With bad position against other potential players, and a UTG range that probably has you in bad shape, I don't see a lot of merit in this play. Am I missing something?

Preflop is pretty close here. With a robot short stack still yet to act, I'd definitely say fold this but with everyone having 100 bbs+, I think calling here is fine. Also, IIRC, leroy stacked off a few minutes ago so he could be tilting. As for squeezing, I think these days most regulars don't go out of their way to squeeze too often. It's sort of a play that I think was more popular a couple of years ago.