Grindcore
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Why shoving on table 6? why not checking flop see if he spaz.
In that situation I usually check flop and turn, waiting for his shove, and only shove myself on the river.
Is that bad? ty
It's close. He doesn't have much $, he might not feel that he can get me to fold for such a small push. Checking is probably slightly better as there's very little to protect against.
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Steppin Razor
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I need some feedback from you guys on the format. I'll be prerecording the next session 2. Do you like the longer session at increased speed, or would you rather see a shorter session played back at normal speed?
I like the format in this video, but too many tables. I'm never watching the right one so I keep having to rewind a bit. And the increased speed gets us more hands anyway.
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SK90
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Time Link to 00:32:40
When you say on these types of boards, which types do you mean?
Rainbowboards that pair on the turn or would the same be true if there was a FD? - What is it exactly that makes this board great for 2 big bombs?
Would a bet of 1/2pot be better than a check to fold out a 7 and 22-JJ and just give up when called here?
Thank you
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Grindcore
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When you say on these types of boards, which types do you mean?
Rainbowboards that pair on the turn or would the same be true if there was a FD? - What is it exactly that makes this board great for 2 big bombs?
Would a bet of 1/2pot be better than a check to fold out a 7 and 22-JJ and just give up when called here?
Thank you
Please be more accurate with your timestamps. I just spend 5 minutes rewinding to a couple of minutes before your timestamp to a minute after and still have no idea what you're talking about. It's a huge pain to constantly have to search in the video. If everyone takes 30 seconds more time to use accurate timestamps and mention table# and my holding, it'd safe me a couple of minutes times twenty (or however many people end up asking questions). Don't get me wrong, I'll happily answer your question, but please go back into the video yourself and let me know exactly where and what you're talking about.
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SK90
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Time Link to 00:32:33
I'm sorry the time stamp was not 100% accurate, I can understand how it must be frustrating.
It's table 6, you have ATo. You start you analasis of the hand a few seconds after my timestamp. I hope you can pick it up quickly now.
You mention that now you can fire 2barrels or just check it down. So I would like to know what exactly makes this board great for 2barrels after he checks the turn. Would it change if there was a FD?, is it because its a high board KQxQ (would T9x9 be different?)
The second question was relating more to the sizing of the turn stab. If we assume that all he calls turn with he will also call river with, then I guess we would want to make the turnstab small - to make it cheap? However if we believe he will call once on the turn and fold the river then we want to bloat the pot with a larger turnbet - to win more when he folds river?
So when we decide if we want to fire big or small on the turn, we base it on if we think he will fold a K on the river?
I hope it's more clear this time
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Grindcore
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I'm sorry the time stamp was not 100% accurate, I can understand how it must be frustrating.
It's table 6, you have ATo. You start you analasis of the hand a few seconds after my timestamp. I hope you can pick it up quickly now.
You mention that now you can fire 2barrels or just check it down. So I would like to know what exactly makes this board great for 2barrels after he checks the turn. Would it change if there was a FD?, is it because its a high board KQxQ (would T9x9 be different?)
The second question was relating more to the sizing of the turn stab. If we assume that all he calls turn with he will also call river with, then I guess we would want to make the turnstab small - to make it cheap? However if we believe he will call once on the turn and fold the river then we want to bloat the pot with a larger turnbet - to win more when he folds river?
So when we decide if we want to fire big or small on the turn, we base it on if we think he will fold a K on the river?
I hope it's more clear this time
In general almost nobody c/c's river after a turn c/c with the initiative. This wasn't the best board for it, T9x9 would be better as his top pairs are weaker and he's also more likely to 2barrel an overpair there. Still, I think it's quite safe to assume that an unkown is folding at a high enough frequency to a double barrel there, that once you fire turn (which is +EV anyway on itself even without betting river), you should also try bluffing him on the river. Therefore I do not bet small on the turn, as a large bet sets up a more profitable river bluff.
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Prologion
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Grindcore
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Doesn`t the C/R on the flop 4-way (with 2 callers of the cbet) look a little bit too small?
Although you rep mainly JTs - hence a bigger size wouldn`t anyways accomplish too much..?
Put yourself in any of their shoes. Do you really put the player in my position on a bluff with the sizing I used?
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Time Link to 00:25:22
Can we take his action from the 4way pot and use it to try and draw conclusions here? He flat/traps a big hand he should be raising in the first pot, so why would he be weakly betting on the turn this time? I'm curious whether you think we can make any assumptions based on his 4 way play or if you think that they are way too unrelated.
Cheers.
Edit: Actually, I just realized my question makes no sense because he c/c the flop and led the turn which is what he might have done in the other hand.
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nemmad
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Table 4 QJo:
lets say you have QJhh, now you have the backdoor straight+flush so you can barrel with more equity. Is your plan to 2 or 3 barrel now vs him readless? (he made his 3bet 3.5x our openingsize, thats why we called, because we are somewhat deeper) We can bet flop now and bet turn on a heart, K or T. I think people will fold in general their JJ-KK, 9x, 5x on a 2 barrel, because they cant call 3? So only 3 barrel when we made our backdoorflush or straight and not on a blank, because he only calls Ax on a 3 barrel?
Main question is: do you think he will fold his JJ-KK, 9x, 5x on a 2 barrel? Or do you think you need to 3 barrel them to let him fold those hands in general?
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Grindcore
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If I commit myself to a 3barrel, being suited only gives a tiny bit of equity on the flop and hardly makes a difference. If I'm giving up all turns where I don't pick up equity the flop bet can still be -EV. Also if I check I can still hit those good cards and double barrel there when he misses his delayed cbet. I like betting once and 3barreling when I improve a lot more with QJ of hearts though.
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