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DC Shorts: FenderJaguar (#1) - Deadly Discs

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DC Shorts: FenderJaguar (#1) - Deadly Discs by FenderJaguar

FenderJaguar discusses how to bluff and steal pots in different situations.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 23 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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FenderJaguar

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In the KQs hand I continue discussion even though we improve and aren't bluffing anymore, thought that was OK cause it was an interesting hand Smile

I realize in the 48cc hand I said a 7 would be tricky but LOL that would give me a straight. The mistakes of fast talking through stuff Smile

Also in the 89dd hand I said if I hit a pair I'd check back the turn and I think that's good vs. some guys and I think betting again is good vs. other guys. The wider their range and the higher their frequency of calling 2x with hands as bad as a gutshot the more likely I am to value bet again, the tighter their range or the lower their frequency the more likely I am to check back, hope they bluff the river or I improve, maybe they check and maybe I check/maybe I value bet. You get the idea.

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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In the last hand w/QTo when I say that my hand looks like an Ax when I call the flop, I mean it looks like Ax or a pair and if I bet the turn I remove all of those pairs from my range in his eyes and that even though I think he's going to mostly play straightforward past the flop, he's still a good capable player and may realize my value betting hands on the turn are few and far between, whereas if I check back I retain all the showdown pairs and can have most of the Ax hands as well, thus keeping him playing straightforward (giving him a chance to improve is a risk we'll take w/his range being so wide).

Posted over 2 years ago

UGAnation

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I enjoyed the high speed discussion as something different. It kinda helped me to notice how all the ideas work together because they were just one after the other rapid fire.

Thanks

Posted over 2 years ago

MPHansen

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Herostratos

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Wow, the KQ hand on the river seemed to me like a snap fold, I guess I just didn't imagine a weak player is capable of bluffing in this spot. This might be a leak...SmileThx, great vid

Posted over 2 years ago

Noah.

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Super Short!


I don't know how many episodes I'm gonna make of this...could be one, could be eighteen...




Please make lots.

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Thanks everyone Smile I'll have to consider making more then Grin

Posted over 2 years ago

Crackmonkey

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I loved this video format. It was like a HH lightning round. While dissecting a HH for 20 minutes and really trying to delve deep into a player's thought process is very beneficial, it can also be very useful to look at many hands in succession to get a solid idea of when a particular play can be very food, and when it can be very bad, or many different spots where you can utilize the same type of play.

Keep em coming.

Posted over 2 years ago

PokerPiet

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i highly doubt the call with KQ is good, don't think a weaker player is gonna turn up with a hand like this a lot, and if he does play t9 this way he will also come to the river with a lot of Jx. I stoved it to see how we do vs his range.

Board: Jd 8h 3s Kd Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.529% 23.53% 00.00% 8 0.00 { KsQs }
Hand 1: 76.471% 76.47% 00.00% 26 0.00 { JJ, 88, AJs, Ad8d, KJs, QJs, J9s+, T9s, Td8d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 8h7h, AJo, KJo, QJo }

we need about 26% so against this it'd be a fold.
If we include QTs we'd have 29% equity (so call) but if we then remove 8x from his range we got 21%

I personally don't think he is gonna shove any pair on the river given he's a weaker player so if he shoves all his trips+ and nonpair hands, we will have 21% equity which is not enough to call.

Board: Jd 8h 3s Kd Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 21.212% 21.21% 00.00% 7 0.00 { KsQs }
Hand 1: 78.788% 78.79% 00.00% 26 0.00 { JJ, 88, AJs, KJs, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, AJo, KJo, QJo }

You had a timing tell but i think he would have thought for a bit before shoving Jx too.

btw i would bet a bit smaller on the turn given stacks.

Other then this great vid, some good spots and love the turbomode Smile

One thing to considerfor future vids is that you might wanna show some hands u lost or misplayed Wink

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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I disagree with all the doubt of the KQ hand Smile I think you may underestimate how often a "weaker player" can show up with a and "like this". Everyone is different, each weaker player unique, a puzzle box to figure out. I don't like automatically ruling out that something isn't possible because of a super generic read like someone is a weaker player. Until you see a reason that you don't think he can show up with certain hands in certain spots (observation and sometimes hud etc.) it's very important to keep all of your options open.

Also, I think your range for villain is definitely too tight. The fact that with this tight range if you include QTs it's a call by your numbers should show you that this is probably a pretty easy call for a number of reasons.

Basically you're making lots of assumptions based on how you think this person plays with zero information on this person.

I like the turn bet Smile I suspect I will not be able to buy any additional fold equity vs. this player with a bigger bet, so I may as well be value betting large.

Anyway what to take away from this hand is HOW to think in situations like this, because there will be no brainer snap calls, no brainer folds, and everything in between. So a few things to think about....

1. width of opponents actual range for getting to the street in question. based on preflop vpip/position and any reads regarding his postflop continuing/giving up ranges.

2. board texture, what draws exist? how many are there? how many is he likely to have? what draws missed/completed? combinations?

3. his value betting range. is there a chance he's value betting worse as well as better?

4. pot odds? what kind of a price are we getting?

5. any additional information/reads we know to help us. (like in my spot I was already leaning towards a call and my timing tell on him was like a bit o' sugar in the tea, not something I'm going to make the entire decision on, but def a factor if I've played with him some and it seemed out of the ordinary. can't explain much else about this, just takes experience with players and a lot of focus IE not on 12 tables)

add it all together and figure out whether you like a call or a fold in spots that come up for you.

Posted over 2 years ago

dxiri

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Hi, amazing video!! just joined today looking for stuff like this and I am pretty amazed! getting this kind of tought process you employ seems a little complicated but I guess with good practice and CONCENTRATION you can pull things like this very often.

The Q10 hand was most amazing for me, in this kind of situations I almost always insta-fold cause like you said he could have KJ or K with flush draw and I will see the raise as he wants to bet for value his 2 pair.

Do you mind explaining the hand a little more?

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Hey Smile Glad you found what you're looking for. Can you use the time link to show me which hand you're talking about exactly?

Posted over 2 years ago

dxiri

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Hey Smile Glad you found what you're looking for. Can you use the time link to show me which hand you're talking about exactly?



forgot Grin sorry about that, here:

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7801-FenderJaguar-1-Deadly-Discs?seek=1010

Posted over 2 years ago

FenderJaguar

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Hi, amazing video!! just joined today looking for stuff like this and I am pretty amazed! getting this kind of tought process you employ seems a little complicated but I guess with good practice and CONCENTRATION you can pull things like this very often.

The Q10 hand was most amazing for me, in this kind of situations I almost always insta-fold cause like you said he could have KJ or K with flush draw and I will see the raise as he wants to bet for value his 2 pair.

Do you mind explaining the hand a little more?



Basically I thought this player would be more likely to raise most of his 2 pair hands for value on the flop. KJ or 22 and big draws. Also that if he flat called he's more likely to keep slowplaying than raise a blank turn randomly. Which doesn't leave much in his value range save for K5s or J5s if he even defends those. There's not much else to it really Smile

Posted over 2 years ago




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